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Posted on 1/16/25 at 6:56 pm to oneg8rh8r
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:52 pm to Big Scrub TX
I just refuse to believe they are going to spend a dollar on buying any amount of bitcoin. My portfolio will be pleasantly surprised if they do but I just don't see it happening.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:46 pm to TigerTatorTots
with MSTR inclusion in Nasdaq and rolled in QQQ, you by proxy own MSTR er go you own BTC;
Lots of people who want nothing to do with crypto are now IN crypto or BTC at a minimum.
It does, is and will forever effect everything from that point forward.
If MSTR gets included in the S&P, it will continue to accelerate without even trying. This says nothing of the continued state and country buy in, large business adoption and retailers continue to stack BTC like crazy. Of which there isn't an unlimited amt. There is a finite amt and it is dwindling QUICKLY.
Lots of people who want nothing to do with crypto are now IN crypto or BTC at a minimum.
It does, is and will forever effect everything from that point forward.
If MSTR gets included in the S&P, it will continue to accelerate without even trying. This says nothing of the continued state and country buy in, large business adoption and retailers continue to stack BTC like crazy. Of which there isn't an unlimited amt. There is a finite amt and it is dwindling QUICKLY.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 9:50 pm to oneg8rh8r
I don't know if you meant to reply to me with all that or if it was a general post
I don't think I can be any longer BTC/MSTR unless I sold my home to buy more
I don't think I can be any longer BTC/MSTR unless I sold my home to buy more
Posted on 1/16/25 at 10:01 pm to oneg8rh8r
quote:The stock is flat since it was added (and it was down pretty good for a bit). There is no evidence that inclusion in indices predictably leads to those stocks going up.
with MSTR inclusion in Nasdaq and rolled in QQQ, you by proxy own MSTR er go you own BTC;
Lots of people who want nothing to do with crypto are now IN crypto or BTC at a minimum.
It does, is and will forever effect everything from that point forward.
If MSTR gets included in the S&P, it will continue to accelerate without even trying. This says nothing of the continued state and country buy in, large business adoption and retailers continue to stack BTC like crazy. Of which there isn't an unlimited amt. There is a finite amt and it is dwindling QUICKLY.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:07 pm to Big Scrub TX
if you don't mind me asking? what price did you get in at?
Posted on 1/18/25 at 6:34 am to TigerTatorTots
Posted on 1/28/25 at 12:42 pm to TigerTatorTots
What will MSTR need to show when their QTRLY #s comes out on 2/5 for it to start making a move upward? I know it is very BTC dependent, but anything it can show to break off a bit from that? IIRC its software consulting brings in about $100m/qtr (but may be yearly can't remember). Would that just have to show a bit more or sufficiently more for it to grab attention?
I know this one is volatile, BTC dependent, but just wondering what should be expected going into the #s release and into the following few months.
I will say it being down 2.5%ish at around high $339-340 range, while BTC is up 3.5% at around $102,850-900 range, is the only time I've seen this difference in direction since watching this stock since NOV. Trying to understand what could be the reason, and the new assessment moving forward.
TIA
I know this one is volatile, BTC dependent, but just wondering what should be expected going into the #s release and into the following few months.
I will say it being down 2.5%ish at around high $339-340 range, while BTC is up 3.5% at around $102,850-900 range, is the only time I've seen this difference in direction since watching this stock since NOV. Trying to understand what could be the reason, and the new assessment moving forward.
TIA
Posted on 1/28/25 at 12:58 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:and more likely to decline in a tech selloff
There is no evidence that inclusion in indices predictably leads to those stocks going up.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 1:57 pm to HagaDaga
quote:Nothing IMO. Their underlying business has zero bearing on the stock price. It is all btc price and forecasted ATM and convertible debt plans that move the price.
What will MSTR need to show when their QTRLY #s comes out on 2/5 for it to start making a move upward? I
Posted on 1/28/25 at 2:10 pm to TigerTatorTots
quote:
Nothing IMO. Their underlying business has zero bearing on the stock price. It is all btc price and forecasted ATM and convertible debt plans that move the price.
Thanks. This is what I was somewhat thinking, especially if I was right in how much their non-BTC revenue is.
Man, this really is hard to try to understand what it will/can do upon its release. Starting to lean that it will having nothing new to share that can pump it up. Like I said, the way MSTR/BTC have gone separate ways today, is different so just made me think what the earnings report will have.
Also, the stock sales it had to open up for more BTC purchases, makes me just wonder.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:48 pm to HagaDaga
if you have an investment that you are this unsure about, that should say something about whether it belongs in your stash or not
Posted on 1/28/25 at 4:32 pm to cgrand
I got in on this after the initial dip and it’s been flat ever since. Probably sell to move to something else. So MSTR is sure to go up after that.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:58 pm to meeple
Going higher
Posted on 1/29/25 at 10:53 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:
There is no evidence that inclusion in indices predictably leads to those stocks going up.
You must be joking?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:02 pm to wutangfinancial
quote:I don't think so. My understanding of the current literature is that, long-term, there is very little - if any - noticeable positive impact on a stock's price from having joined a major index.
You must be joking?
Historically, there has been a "pop" effect in the immediate term (call it 5-10%), but even that has faded to almost zero in recent years.
IOW, if your plan for MSTR is that it's a good buy in coming years because it's been added to the NASDAQ, I believe that's a misguided signal of value.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
No idea about that...
But my MSTX is paying me well, even with it down!
But my MSTX is paying me well, even with it down!
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:54 pm to BCreed1
It's just so crazy how relentlessly they are selling stock, seemingly with no tactical sense of timing or letting it breathe.
In December, they were selling it at $440 and buying bitcoin at $95K. Now they are selling it at $337 and buying bitcoin at $103K.
In December, they were selling it at $440 and buying bitcoin at $95K. Now they are selling it at $337 and buying bitcoin at $103K.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 3:02 pm to Big Scrub TX
I think it's the same as most investors. If you are holding things, no issue.
And MSTX is not MSTR. It's a 2x on MSTR. and the calls are great!
And MSTX is not MSTR. It's a 2x on MSTR. and the calls are great!
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