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re: Could Babe Ruth & Ted Williams crack a starting lineup in today's MLB ?
Posted on 9/7/25 at 7:19 pm to Boston Bob
Posted on 9/7/25 at 7:19 pm to Boston Bob
The size bat Ruth uses shows guys were low 80s max back then
Not a human being in the world can get around on 100mph with a 44 oz bat. Honestly pitchers were most likely sitting in the 70s for him to consistently hit with that thing
Not a human being in the world can get around on 100mph with a 44 oz bat. Honestly pitchers were most likely sitting in the 70s for him to consistently hit with that thing
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Posted on 9/7/25 at 7:28 pm to Boston Bob
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Ted Williams couldn't hit modern pitching
These people are stupid. Ted would do just fine against modern pitching. The thing that bugs me about these arguments is they act like 5000 years have passed and somehow humans have evolved. Baseball is a skill game.
This post was edited on 9/7/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 9/7/25 at 7:29 pm to barry
and hed be hitting it 580 feet
Posted on 9/7/25 at 7:44 pm to Sun God
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ETA: I just got it. I’m stupid
Posted on 9/7/25 at 7:56 pm to barry
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These people are stupid. Ted would do just fine against modern pitching.
Dude modern hitters dont do fine against modern pitching
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:05 pm to chalmetteowl
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Dude modern hitters dont do fine against modern pitching
The elite ones do. Judge has posted some of the best all-time seasons offensively ever.
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:10 pm to SLCGumpFB25
Thanks Early
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:10 pm to Sun God
Just here to brighten your day bud. 
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:26 pm to Boston Bob
I think they could do fine, but wouldn’t lap the field like they did in their day.
The talent pool for Ruth era baseball was 55,000,000 or so people (the white male population of the US).
The modern talent pool is north of 250,000,000 people (Primarily the male population of the U.S., Japan, and some Carribean countries).
Expansion (30 teams vs. 16 teams) doesn’t cover the explosion in the talent pool.
This is without thinking about specialization, training, etc…
The talent pool for Ruth era baseball was 55,000,000 or so people (the white male population of the US).
The modern talent pool is north of 250,000,000 people (Primarily the male population of the U.S., Japan, and some Carribean countries).
Expansion (30 teams vs. 16 teams) doesn’t cover the explosion in the talent pool.
This is without thinking about specialization, training, etc…
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:40 pm to Madking
What gets me is that Ruth was just SO much better than his peers who had the same chances as him but could not come close to putting up numbers that matched Ruth. I don’t care what anyone says.. Ruth’s 1921 season is the GOAT season in baseball history.
Posted on 9/7/25 at 9:55 pm to Sun God
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He would’ve blown everyone away with 100+ mph high fastballs
or he would have gone to work in a factory and never played
You think he just picked up a ball and started throwing it 100 mph.
Who would teach him how in 1915?
Posted on 9/7/25 at 11:58 pm to Boston Bob
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"I heard Ted literally tore the sleeve target to shreds with his angle dives. He'd shoot from wingovers, zooms, and barrel rolls, and after a few passes the sleeve was ribbons. At any rate, I know he broke the all-time record for hits." Ted went to Jacksonville for a course in aerial gunnery, the combat pilot's payoff test, and broke all the records in reflexes, coordination, and visual-reaction time.
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Williams flew 39 combat missions in Korea, earning the Air Medal with two Gold Stars representing second and third awards, before being withdrawn from flight status in June 1953 after a hospitalization for pneumonia. This resulted in the discovery of an inner ear infection that disqualified him from flight status.[153] John Glenn described Williams as one of the best pilots he knew.[154] In the last half of his missions, Williams was flying as Glenn's wingman.
I have no idea when it comes to the older players vs the new ones? I’d like to see any of these guys today become Navy and Marine Corps Aviators. Ted Williams was a talented man.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 12:02 am
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:14 am to dukke v
Living in Tampa Bay, between most of the Spring Training headquarters and a sizable Hall of Fame and retired Major League Baseball community. I received a phone call from one of my new players in the 13-15 year old bracket. There was a retired Hall of Fame ball player that wanted to be in the dugout with the kids. I didn’t mind, so we accepted. He sat in the dugout and didn’t say much at first. Then the stories finally came out.
One night, I’m listening to “We hated him, every time we played the Yankees and he came in from the locker room.It would start. Here comes the Babe, here comes the Babe, to hell with the rest of us,”
Then, he got interested in me. I had developed pick off plays that he took to the club. We watched one successfully used in a Monday night Detroit Tiger game. There is a claim that today’s “pool size” is bigger. Today’s pool size is diluted. Too many distractions. These guys were dedicated to the game they excelled at.
One night, I’m listening to “We hated him, every time we played the Yankees and he came in from the locker room.It would start. Here comes the Babe, here comes the Babe, to hell with the rest of us,”
Then, he got interested in me. I had developed pick off plays that he took to the club. We watched one successfully used in a Monday night Detroit Tiger game. There is a claim that today’s “pool size” is bigger. Today’s pool size is diluted. Too many distractions. These guys were dedicated to the game they excelled at.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:55 am to Boston Bob
quote:In every other sport it’s not even a question that today’s players would destroy the players of the past.
And it was the dead ball era, ball was like mush compared to today where they are hitting Titleist's. And doctoring the baseball was legal until 1920's. Imagine hitting a dead ball where they were allowed to cut/scuff/spit on the ball.
Yet for some reason, in baseball, some people actually think chain-smoking out of shape alcoholics from 100 years ago were some of the greatest players ever and players today could never do what they did.
It’s truly amazing that some people believe it.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:14 am to PrimeTime Money
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Yet for some reason, in baseball, some people actually think chain-smoking out of shape alcoholics from 100 years ago were some of the greatest players ever and players today could never do what they did.
Because its a skill sport, not an aerobic conditioning-based one...
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:30 am to Boston Bob
You know Babe swung a 40oz bat, right? You hand him a 32 oz and he can play in any era.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:58 pm to Boston Bob
Of course. Hand-eye coordination connects all eras.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:08 pm to dukke v
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What gets me is that Ruth was just SO much better than his peers who had the same chances as him but could not come close to putting up numbers that matched Ruth. I don’t care what anyone says.. Ruth’s 1921 season is the GOAT season in baseball history.
And he started his career as a pitcher.
Won 93 games until they decided he was an even better hitter.
Imagine if they had the DH back then, or had he not wasted those early years as a full time pitcher.
Babe is The GOAT and it's not even close.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:23 pm to Boston Bob
Of course not........
They're both dead...
They're both dead...
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:29 pm to Boston Bob
Babe played 100 years ago and is still the most recognizable player in baseball. That says it all.
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