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re: DAT: 2023-2024 Off Season Thread
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:29 am to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:29 am to tiggerthetooth
In other news, Cohen also wants to set the market on being hated by the other MLB owners. 
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:57 am to mattz1122
Too bad that Trey (Skip) Wilson passed away. He'd know how to take care of the lollygaggers.
Dude was even from Houston, too. Sad that the guy passed away at age 41. Waaaaaaay too young to go.
Dude was even from Houston, too. Sad that the guy passed away at age 41. Waaaaaaay too young to go.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:25 pm to Jwho77
McTaggart:
I don't want Chapman. We've been through enough anxiety from relievers the last few years.
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The Astros will have a new manager in 2024 following the retirement of Dusty Baker, and the club’s window of contention remains wide open. Houston returns most of its key players from 2023 -- the Astros’ 10 highest bWAR players are all under contract -- and will welcome back injured starting pitchers Lance McCullers Jr. and Luis Garcia at some point next year.
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Which players are set to become free agents?
Outfielder Michael Brantley, catcher Martín Maldonado and right-handed relievers Ryne Stanek, Phil Maton and Hector Neris.
Are any of them likely to receive qualifying offers?
The Astros will not extend a qualifying offer to any of their free agents.
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Which players have options, what’s the impact on payroll?
Neris has an $8.5 million player option ($1 million buyout) for 2024, but he’s likely to test the open market. Houston has a strong interest in bringing him back, considering his popularity in the clubhouse and his terrific 2023 season (1.71 ERA in 71 games). The deadline to exercise the option is five days after the end of the World Series.
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Who might be a non-tender candidate, and when does the club have to make that decision?
Of the Astros’ seven arbitration-eligible players -- left-hander Framber Valdez, right fielder Kyle Tucker, infielder/outfielder Mauricio Dubón, outfielder Chas McCormick and right-handers José Urquidy, Bryan Abreu and Garcia -- none are non-tender candidates. The non-tender deadline is Nov. 17.
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What kind of help do they need and will they be active in free agency? Who might they target?
With three potential free agents, the Astros will have to address their bullpen first and foremost. Bringing back Neris would be a good start, but Maton has been a key piece to the relief corps the past two seasons, posting a 3.00 ERA this year in 68 games. Stanek is unlikely to return in 2024.
Houston could use some left-handed relief help. In addition to Josh Hader, who’s a closer and likely out of the Astros’ price range anyway, the next-best southpaw lefty that will be on the free-agent market is Aroldis Chapman. Yes, the Astros have had their clashes with Chapman through the years, but 100-plus mph from the left side is a huge weapon.
Another hard-throwing reliever, Jordan Hicks, is a free agent. He’s from the Houston area and could be a fit.
I don't want Chapman. We've been through enough anxiety from relievers the last few years.
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Who might they be willing to trade?
The Astros traded their top two prospects -- outfielders Drew Gilbert and Ryan Clifford -- to the Mets to get Justin Verlander at the Deadline, so trading high-end prospects for relief pitching is probably out of the question.
In terms of the Major League roster, the most tradeable pieces are Urquidy, right-handers Brandon Bielak and Seth Martinez and outfielder Corey Julks.
Anyone willing take on right-hander Rafael Montero’s contract?
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:29 pm to 81Tiger
Mctaggartd insights aren't worth the toilet paper they are written on.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:13 pm to Underwood
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Also rangers had to buy a title with the best players from other teams
I really wish we would have spent some money on real players and bought another title or two. Instead of bargain shopping on Abreu, Montero, and Brantley
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:04 pm to 81Tiger
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Count me in as disgusted that were about to witness the frick the Rangers winning a World Series title and we aren't. frick this shite.
I've some good friends who grew up in Dallas and have been Rangers fans all of their lives. I remember what it felt like, after 45 years as an Astros fan, in 2017 when the Astros finally won. Astros shite their Depends this year, so next best thing is to see some people I care about finally get to feel the joy of 2017. I will be happy for them.
That said, frick the Rangers.
Changing gears:
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What kind of help do they need and will they be active in free agency? Who might they target?
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the Astros will have to address their bullpen first and foremost.
They answered the biggest need with the very first sentence.
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welcome back injured starting pitchers Lance McCullers Jr.
Move Lance to the bullpen. Sign Neris. Trade one of Urquidy, France, or Garcia (not likely).
A bullpen with Neris for 6th inning, followed by interchangeable parts of Abreu, McCullers and Pressly would make for a hell of a 7,8, 9 -- and will shorten games tremendously.
Everything else is window dressing.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:14 pm to Floating Change Up
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@brianmctaggart
Among the things Brown is looking for in a manager: leadership, ability to run the clubhouse and the bullpen. "Someone I could gel with and communicate well with," he said.
Could have just said someone who isn't going to make the shitty backup catcher a full time starter.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:10 pm to icegator337
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I really wish we would have spent some money on real players and bought another title or two. Instead of bargain shopping on Abreu, Montero, and Brantley
doomed from the start
Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:27 pm to Underwood
The Padres maxed out the credit card and find themselves cash poor. I'm willing to trade most of you for Juan Soto. Please keep a go bag packed just in case.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 10:55 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Thinking about Moldy’s bases loaded at bat in game 1
Yainer and Tuve’s shitty at bats with bases loaded game 2
Dubon’s shitty at bat and Jon freaking Singleton getting the biggest at bat of the season with bases loaded in game 6
Dusty just watching J.P. France give up 4 earned runs only getting 1 out before going to Neris.
Tucker completely disappearing.
Alright World Series is over, what happened happened hopefully that’s the last I think about that shite. Looking forward to the off-season rumors and hopefully March 28th gets here in a hurry
Yainer and Tuve’s shitty at bats with bases loaded game 2
Dubon’s shitty at bat and Jon freaking Singleton getting the biggest at bat of the season with bases loaded in game 6
Dusty just watching J.P. France give up 4 earned runs only getting 1 out before going to Neris.
Tucker completely disappearing.
Alright World Series is over, what happened happened hopefully that’s the last I think about that shite. Looking forward to the off-season rumors and hopefully March 28th gets here in a hurry
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:02 pm to TigerFan91
I hope Tucker and Framber are sleeping like shite tonight
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:34 pm to Eighteen
Tucker hasn't spent a minute thinking about baseball since they were eliminated
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:16 am to Lsuhoohoo
Padres trade Juan Soto to Astros in exchange for paying off their loan.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 6:27 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Tucker hasn't spent a minute thinking about baseball since the third inning of game 162.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 9:52 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Tucker hasn't spent a minute thinking about baseball since they were eliminated
I'm not sure that Tucker really loves the game. I think he is just good at it. He looked ready to be done and go on vacation with Samantha. Some of the rest look like they never want the season to end.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:39 am to LaLadyinTx
Jim Cranes next big free agent acquisition
Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:44 am to Lsuhoohoo
I would absolutely move Tucker and an arm for Soto
You can give me a ticket on that train
You can give me a ticket on that train
Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:44 am to Lsuhoohoo
And I don't even know the particulars on Soto's situation
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:44 pm to wahoocs
Astros announce promotions
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:49 pm to wahoocs
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And I don't even know the particulars on Soto's situation
This is his last year of arbitration. He is expected to get $33-$35 million in arbitration this year.
His agent is Scott Boras.
He is a better player, projects to have a longer career, and will be 5 years younger than Aaron Judge was when Judge signed his huge contract.
If the Astros get Soto, it will be for one year only. And only half, if they somehow drop back behind the Rangers and Mariners in the division at the trade deadline -- which is a very real possibility.
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