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re: Great Video "Are athletes really getting bigger, faster, stronger?"
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:31 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:31 am to Jim Rockford
Magic Johnson was the first 6-9 point guard and people were astounded now if you're 6-9 and don't have at least some ball handling skills there's no place for you in the NBA.
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Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:01 am to Ernest T Bass
Human beings aren’t bigger, faster, and stronger now. Modern training, nutrition, and artificial enhancement makes athletes today bigger, faster, and stronger.
But the elite athletes of the past absolutely could compete with any of the elite athletes today if they were given the same regimen athletes today are given.
The real difference between then and now is the talent pool today is much larger. In the past, being an athlete wasn’t a popular career path for a lot of really athletic people who existed and never tried their hand at sports.
But the elite athletes of the past absolutely could compete with any of the elite athletes today if they were given the same regimen athletes today are given.
The real difference between then and now is the talent pool today is much larger. In the past, being an athlete wasn’t a popular career path for a lot of really athletic people who existed and never tried their hand at sports.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 9:52 am to Jim Rockford
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He was a medalist from a second tier competition, running for fun, and he put up a better time than the fastest man of the 1930s.
Did he grow up in the early 20th century with that nutrition and medicine and training? Another thing that has drastically improved since even 100 years is air quality. Most people I don’t think appreciate how much things like air quality have improved. You still had factories in cities then and no air filters or anything and people smoked literally everywhere and again people like Owens necessarily didn’t train year round like they do now.
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 10:47 am
Posted on 7/31/23 at 10:00 am to H-Town Tiger
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Did he grow up in the early 20th century with that nutrition and medicine and training? Another rhingbthat has drastically improved since even 100 years is air quality. Most people I don’t think appreciate how much things like air quality have improved. You still had factories in cities then and no air filters or anything and people smoked literally everywhere and again people like Owens necessarily didn’t train year round like they do now
Exactly, it's amazing that so many people are clueless.
Even in the 1970s Bruce Jenner worked a normal job and trained by himself at a local high school after work.
Athletes today are professionals with dieticians, trainers, modern equipment etc.
Give those same perks to athletes of the past an IF todays athletes are better, it's miniscule.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:42 pm to FLTech
If babe Ruth was born in 2000 and came up in todays game, he would be a monster.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 4:34 pm to Jack Daniel
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There were always elite athletes, I just think as a whole athletes are bigger faster and stronger.
Compare the last man on the roster now to the last man on the roster 50 years ago.
This is the correct take. It isn't that the ceiling is necessarily higher today...but the floor has risen. Which makes the outliers of today even more impressive than what the outliers accomplished with a more diluted playing field in their day.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 4:49 pm to Jim Rockford
Robert Williams is 6-8, has no ball handling skill and plays center in the NBA.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 9:26 pm to carrguitar
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There were always elite athletes, I just think as a whole athletes are bigger faster and stronger.
Lou Gerhig drank milk and Shirley Temples, not PED cocktails and Barry Bond creams.
But he was strong as an Ox and had muscles before athletes had muscles.
Athletes didn't lift weights until basically the 70s/80s as it was deemed to ruin your athleticism...
But you wanna tackle Red Grange? Or fight Marciano?
He's 22 years old in this picture. And he looks like he could hold his own and whip baby-faced current athletes in a Sonic parking lot.
There's no bigger, stronger, faster regarding the absolutely moronic claim of generational evolution.
Any differences, probably the last 10,000 years on the human scale, varies from time periods... And any athletic differences in just 80-100 years has NOTHING todo with, "born better"... BUT is exclusively because of modern bio synthetic elements and chemistry. Or commonly known as, shite you shoot in your arse.
No athlete born today is naturally more athletic than something as miniscule as someone 100 years in the course of Millions of years of the human story.
fricking touting weight training and protein bars is like Hulk Hogan telling kids to take their vitamins, when that's a wrestling code word for Roids.
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 7/31/23 at 9:30 pm to Ernest T Bass
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Video
Agreed
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Great
No
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Are athletes really getting bigger, faster, stronger?"
Yes
Posted on 7/31/23 at 10:01 pm to Ernest T Bass
I saw that video several years ago, and I just watched the whole thing again, it’s a great video.
The video doesn’t debunk athletes, getting bigger, faster, and stronger, it just explains why. Basically his point is that in the last 30-40 yrs coaches and trainers have realized finding the outlier body types that fit their sports and maximizing those bodies abilities is the way to go. I like the part where he talks about how if you were to meet a 7ft tall American man between the ages of 24-36 in 2013 there was a 17% chance he played in the NBA. So basically 1/6 7ft American males played in the NBA. Or the part about how one tribe in Kenya produces more sub 2 hr marathon runners, then the entire United States because of their genes.
People realized the best way to make the perfect athlete is to find the type of body type that plays that sport best and maximize that person. This is why NFL linemen are so much bigger today.
I think you can use that information to prove both points
1. Professional athletes are better today than their predecessors, because they are highly specialized, train specifically to maximize their abilities in a particular sport, and have the perfect body types for what they’re doing.
2. And the elite of the elite athletes of the past were just as good as anybody playing today. If you took guys like Jesse, Owens and Babe Ruth had the same kind of specialization training and access to data, technology, and coaching that the guys today have, they would be just as good. The difference is those guys were the outliers, and they happen to find the perfect sport. Now everybody competing at that level is the outlier.
The video doesn’t debunk athletes, getting bigger, faster, and stronger, it just explains why. Basically his point is that in the last 30-40 yrs coaches and trainers have realized finding the outlier body types that fit their sports and maximizing those bodies abilities is the way to go. I like the part where he talks about how if you were to meet a 7ft tall American man between the ages of 24-36 in 2013 there was a 17% chance he played in the NBA. So basically 1/6 7ft American males played in the NBA. Or the part about how one tribe in Kenya produces more sub 2 hr marathon runners, then the entire United States because of their genes.
People realized the best way to make the perfect athlete is to find the type of body type that plays that sport best and maximize that person. This is why NFL linemen are so much bigger today.
I think you can use that information to prove both points
1. Professional athletes are better today than their predecessors, because they are highly specialized, train specifically to maximize their abilities in a particular sport, and have the perfect body types for what they’re doing.
2. And the elite of the elite athletes of the past were just as good as anybody playing today. If you took guys like Jesse, Owens and Babe Ruth had the same kind of specialization training and access to data, technology, and coaching that the guys today have, they would be just as good. The difference is those guys were the outliers, and they happen to find the perfect sport. Now everybody competing at that level is the outlier.
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 7/31/23 at 10:30 pm to LSUstudent4life
Give me a fricking break
The dude was an overweight fat lazy slob who smoked cigarettes while batting
The dude was an overweight fat lazy slob who smoked cigarettes while batting
Posted on 8/1/23 at 7:08 am to Geauxgurt
What Borg did, none of these guys have done.
Funny how none of you cats are arguing Cassius Clay, Foreman, or Frazier wouldn't dominate today. Or boxers in lower weight classes.
Funny how none of you cats are arguing Cassius Clay, Foreman, or Frazier wouldn't dominate today. Or boxers in lower weight classes.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 7:11 am
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:44 pm to FLTech
In todays game. He would have the best training available. No one smokes anymore. If he had just a hint of a modern workout regime he would be the man child of bonds and ohtani.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:46 pm to LSUstudent4life
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If he had just a hint of a modern workout regime he would be the man child of bonds and ohtani.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:37 pm to diddlydawg7
what a clueless comment. Multiple pitchers he faced could throw well over 90 MPH including probably the greatest pitcher who ever lived Walter Johnson.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:48 pm to LSUstudent4life
Board nerds don’t understand the quantum leap he made in baseball. They’ll tell you Ohtani is doing things nobody else has done when what he’s doing pales in comparison to Ruth. Ruth was hitting more homers than other teams were hitting. He has more complete games pitched than Pedro Martinez. Comparing anybody to Ruth or trying to diminish him is pure ignorance.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:48 am to PrimeTime Money
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Human beings aren’t bigger, faster, and stronger now. Modern training, nutrition, and artificial enhancement makes athletes today bigger, faster, and stronger.
The video is dumb. He actually proves that athletes are bigger, stronger, faster now than before with his own arguments against it. I don't care how it happens whether it be technology, PEDs or training, athletes are a lot better today than they were 100 years or even 30 years ago.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 3:32 pm to BowlJackson
Are you fricking retarding?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 3:42 pm to Ernest T Bass
You had athletes from the past era's that would stand out in today's era I think like big Jim Brown in football, Say Hey Mays in baseball, and Wilt the Stilt and Bill Russell in basketball. But I would say that the athlete's today are generally much more in quantity when it comes to size, speed, agility, and power and all of those traits.
This post was edited on 8/2/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 8/2/23 at 3:57 pm to tucoco
Right. You had your Chamberlains but most big men were statues. Now every team has a 7 footer who can hit 3s and run the floor.
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