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re: How is Pretty Baby still in circulation? NSF(ANYONE)
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:42 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:42 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Does "Don't Stand..." have any overt references to him having sex with the student? Do we even know she was under the age of consent? There's a line between creepy and disgusting filth. I don't remember "Don't Stand..." crossing it; whereas "Pretty Baby" zooms past it without hitting the brakes.
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:42 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Susan Sarandon's pre-Atlantic City rack.
She had one for sure..
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:43 am to prplhze2000
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Let's not forget 17 year old Phoebe Cates
Omg she was 17 in FTARH?
Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:02 am to SoFla Tideroller
Interesting because Sting was a high school teacher before becoming a rockstar. But the lines “this girl is half his age“ and “the accusations fly“ certainly do indicate a very improper student / teacher relationship.
Even if she’s just crushing on him it’s clear that he’s very tempted…
Even if she’s just crushing on him it’s clear that he’s very tempted…
Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:31 am to SouthEasternKaiju
I always took "Don't Stand" to be about a teacher who gets seduced by a high school girl and it ruins his life. He knows what he is doing is wrong, but is too weak to resist it.
The "bad girl" trope is a pretty old one and while looking at it objectively it's wrong, as a narrative device it is very interesting.
That's kind of the whole point of entertainment. We can explore ideas that are taboo and when they are successfully done they will stick with us. Some entertainment is supposed to make us uncomfortable and that is a good thing.
The "bad girl" trope is a pretty old one and while looking at it objectively it's wrong, as a narrative device it is very interesting.
That's kind of the whole point of entertainment. We can explore ideas that are taboo and when they are successfully done they will stick with us. Some entertainment is supposed to make us uncomfortable and that is a good thing.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:43 am to CatfishJohn
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Let's not forget 17 year old Phoebe Cates
Omg she was 17 in FTARH?
She was 19 y/o.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:40 am to dgnx6
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People who weren't alive in the 70s and 80s truly have a hard time relating to the things that were considered ok then.
I was alive in the 80s and don’t want to see little girls being abused by men.
I did not say it was ok. But there was a LOT that was considered ok regarding kids and women that was seriously wrong. A lot of men thought it was just fine to hit on women at work. A lot of men thought no meant yes.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:56 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Hell, for that matter, how does "Don't Stand So Close To Me" still get airplay?
And My Sharona! It's even straight up true. He was 27 and she 17. She was a groupie and running around with the band.
I was 17 dating a 21 year old. I had many friends in 1979 who were 17 and dating 25-26 year olds. It was super easy to get into bars then. Hardly anywhere really checked IDs.
It seems so creepy now (although I married my HS sweetheart and were married 34 years till he passed) but it was really pretty normal then.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:59 am to parrotdr
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Let's not forget 17 year old Phoebe Cates
Omg she was 17 in FTARH?
She was 19 y/o.
Correct. But she was in another movie with full frontal at 17, Paradise.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:23 pm to LaLadyinTx
quote:All the popular songs from that album
And My Sharona!
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Never gonna stop, give it up, such a dirty mind
I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind
That’s What the Little Girls Do
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She's the virgin queen
Dancing in your dreams
Yes she plays her part
If you let her go
She will break your ego
And your heart
Good Girls Don’t
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She's your adolescent dream,
Schoolboy stuff, a sticky sweet romance.
And she makes you want to scream,
Wishing you could get inside her pants.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:38 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Don’t Stand is Lolita in song form. It even references “that book by Nabokov”.
As for Good Girls Don’t, that is sung from a teenage boy’s POV. My Sharon’s, on the other hand…
As for Good Girls Don’t, that is sung from a teenage boy’s POV. My Sharon’s, on the other hand…
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:27 pm to AlxTgr
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Good Girls Don’t
remember hearing this as teen and thinking "did they really just say?"
And it's a teenage sadness
Everyone has got to taste.
An in-between age madness
That you know you can't erase
Til she's sitting on your face.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:29 pm to CAD703X
"Once upon a time in America" co-starred fourteen year old Jennifer Conley with Robert DeNiro.
One particular scene was very unsettling.
One particular scene was very unsettling.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:38 pm to AlxTgr
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At least they used a 32 year old for the nude scenes.
Bet they weren't happy about it.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:44 pm to ThoseGuys
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I always took "Don't Stand" to be about a teacher who gets seduced by a high school girl and it ruins his life. He knows what he is doing is wrong, but is too weak to resist it.
I always read the line "this girl's an open page" to mean she's made her intentions clear, everyone sees it, and he's on the verge of taking her up or possibly they've just started to go down that road.
She's 'teacher's pet', which could imply her friends are jealous because she's got the inside track or again, they're already there.
And the last line, just like the old man in that book by Nabokov, I never understood that.
and just shrugged it off. I was never that literate to grasp it, I suppose. Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:54 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
The line "Just like the old man in that book by Nabokov" alludes to Vladimir Nabokov's novel Lolita (1955)
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:55 pm to LaLadyinTx
My friend way back in the day went to senior prom with his high school girlfriend. He was 25 at the time. She was 18 but barely.
Still called him a pedo for it.
Still called him a pedo for it.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:57 pm to MorbidTheClown
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The line "Just like the old man in that book by Nabokov" alludes to Vladimir Nabokov's novel Lolita (1955)
Yep. Caught that mention above, and then ran across this nifty site.
GENIUS
Breaks down song lyrics and lets you click each line which then has an explainer off to the side for further reference. Yay internets!
Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:10 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Kind of related to this:
LINK
Not surprised to see that child actors are given drugs to help cope with everything. I love Hollywood, but it is such a dirty and disgusting business when you actually look at it.
It's crazy how we just ignore so much of it for the sake of entertainment.
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Not surprised to see that child actors are given drugs to help cope with everything. I love Hollywood, but it is such a dirty and disgusting business when you actually look at it.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. It's crazy how we just ignore so much of it for the sake of entertainment.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:13 pm to Napoleon
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He was 25 at the time. She was 18 but barely. Still called him a pedo for it.
Reminds me of an old Stephen Wright joke.
I knew a girl in high school who had an older boyfriend. He rebuilt and sold old cars, or their abouts, and she made it sound like he did alright. I don’t know how old he was, but it sounded like he was rolling in the money back then. (he was out of school and making his own money…)
Looking back, she was a definite babe. But also nobody ever saw her boyfriend so it could have been a ‘Fast Times’ scenario…
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 3:15 pm
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