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THR Article: Is Disney Bad at Star Wars? An Analysis
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:53 am
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:53 am
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High budgets, scrapped projects, fan backlash. It’s been 12 years since Disney bought Star Wars and its galaxy far, far away arguably has too many broken toys.
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There’s an exchange in Star Wars: The Force Awakens when Rey and Finn are fleeing from stormtroopers and searching for a way to escape. Rey spots the legendary Millennium Falcon, declares it looks like “garbage,” and then quickly reconsiders: “The garbage will do!”
Increasingly, that’s the attitude some fans have about Disney’s Star Wars programming: “Look, we all know this isn’t fantastic anymore, but Star Wars is still Star Wars, and, therefore, it will do.”
To be fair, Disney’s Star Wars shows and movies remain far from space junk. Their titles typically get glowing reviews from critics, and generate box office returns and streaming ratings that other studios would envy (though at a high cost).
So let’s run through Disney’s Star Wars legacy to date, from The Force Awakens to The Acolyte, and see what conclusions might be drawn. Because several aspects of the company’s track record admittedly look shaky: A five-movie franchise that was halted after its box office returns trended the wrong direction. Six live-action TV shows, just one of which has been a multi-season hit. A startling number of projects put into development and then abandoned like starships on Bracca. And one wildly ambitious roleplay hotel that closed after little more than a year.
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LOOKING AHEAD: “WE HAVE HOPE. REBELLIONS ARE BUILT ON HOPE!”
Hanging over all of this is the increasing suspicion that the company may have wrung out the rag, creatively speaking, on storylines culled from Lucas’ original trilogy and his prequels. Even The Acolyte‘s haters should give the show credit for telling a story that’s far removed from the Skywalker Saga (as does Skeleton Crew). This isn’t entirely Disney’s fault, but it’s one the challenges moving forward. How do you make Star Wars feel fresh and new while still feeling like Star Wars and not like, say, Rebel Moon?
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:05 am to RLDSC FAN
Under Bob Chapek they pushed for too much content too quickly to recoup their investments in Lucasfilm and then in Disney Plus. (ETA: I know Chapek wasn't the top guy when they bought Lucasfilm, but he was the driving force behind the announcement of excess shows and movies for both Star Wars and the MCU, many of which have since been shuttered).
It meant that they allowed too many creators to be involved that either wanted to push a message or "do their own spin" on Star Wars, instead of just focusing on creators that wanted to make a good Star Wars property.
On top of that, questionable leadership kept the whole thing tilting in the wrong direction despite some slight corrections over the last few years.
Simply shifting focus to better storytelling would solve everything.
It meant that they allowed too many creators to be involved that either wanted to push a message or "do their own spin" on Star Wars, instead of just focusing on creators that wanted to make a good Star Wars property.
On top of that, questionable leadership kept the whole thing tilting in the wrong direction despite some slight corrections over the last few years.
Simply shifting focus to better storytelling would solve everything.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 8:08 am
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:10 am to RLDSC FAN
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Is Disney Bad at Star Wars?
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:25 am to ProjectP2294
Yes. What else y'all wanna know?
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:29 am to ProjectP2294
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Simply shifting focus to better storytelling would solve everything.
I think the biggest part of the problem is that creators have forgotten what good storytelling even looks like.
Or they never learned what good storytelling is in the first place.
Or they learned, but never fully appreciated what makes a good story good, and thus they held their own talents, ambitions, and ideas in far too high esteem.
Star Wars seems to be a case in point. It's supposed to be "good" because it's Star Wars. Never mind actually writing good characters with compelling arcs and crafting interesting, multi-faceted conflicts. Just insert whatever bullshite idea you came up with that morning and slap the Star Wars brand on it.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:40 am to ProjectP2294
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Simply shifting focus to better storytelling would solve everything.
Here's the thing, until studios like Lucasfilm stop hiring writers to check off boxes and start hiring based on talent, this shite is going to keep happening. The storytelling has suffered because the people coming up with the stories suck at their jobs.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:46 am to RLDSC FAN
Disney is bad at everything right now
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:53 am to RollTide1987
People want to blame all these different things, but you are absolutely correct here.
Hollywood has always had grifters trying to jump on whatever they can to get blank checks to make minimal effort projects. Those grifters are now pitching projects based on its diversity and virtue signaling than actual content and Hollywood is falling for it again.
Now not every one of these grifters are full of malice, but many of them would never get their projects greenlit otherwise.
Hollywood has always had grifters trying to jump on whatever they can to get blank checks to make minimal effort projects. Those grifters are now pitching projects based on its diversity and virtue signaling than actual content and Hollywood is falling for it again.
Now not every one of these grifters are full of malice, but many of them would never get their projects greenlit otherwise.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:54 am to ProjectP2294
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Simply shifting focus to better storytelling would solve everything.
There definitely seem to be a deficit of Simple & elegant solutions.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:57 am to klrstix
Kennedy was always the problem and that was the only way Lucas would do the deal if she ran things.
She’s old as hell and needs to walk.
She’s old as hell and needs to walk.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:57 am to RollTide1987
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Here's the thing, until studios like Lucasfilm stop hiring writers to check off boxes and start hiring based on talent, this shite is going to keep happening. The storytelling has suffered because the people coming up with the stories suck at their jobs.
So you're saying that if they simply shifted the focus to better storytelling, that it would solve everything?
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:59 am to UGATiger26
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creators have forgotten what good storytelling even looks like.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:42 am to RLDSC FAN
I would say Disneynhas a spending problem.
I didnt like the PT.
I like Rogue One. I liked Solo
I think the Mandolorian is some of the most fun since the OT.
You can make a show that isn’t for everyone, but if you need everyone to watch it to recoup your expenses… that’s an issue
now I dont believe they spend what they say they spend o. these shows.
I didnt like the PT.
I like Rogue One. I liked Solo
I think the Mandolorian is some of the most fun since the OT.
You can make a show that isn’t for everyone, but if you need everyone to watch it to recoup your expenses… that’s an issue
now I dont believe they spend what they say they spend o. these shows.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:48 am to SammyTiger
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now I dont believe they spend what they say they spend o. these shows
Agreed...never trust hollywood accounting
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:49 am to RLDSC FAN
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Is Disney Bad at Star Wars?
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:56 am to RLDSC FAN
The fact that this is even a question shows how out of touch Hollywood is
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:50 am to RLDSC FAN
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Any criticism from the sidelines, however, should be tempered with one final point: Making a successful Star War is really hard.
no it isn't. It's actually really easy. You just have to have writers and directors who actually know what makes Star Wars special. I don't care if they are white, black, male, female, gay, trisexual, alien, etc, just know the source material and the characters and stay true to it, and write a good story. There's a ton of people that could make good Star Wars shows/movies, they just aren't being hired to do it b/c that's not what Disney has been interested in doing.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:55 am to TeddyPadillac
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It's actually really easy.
If it were really easy, Lucas, the creator of the universe, would have done better than 2.5/6.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:09 pm to Jay Are
What? How can you not understand that this is peak writing!
Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:19 pm to ProjectP2294
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Under Bob Chapek they pushed for too much content too quickly to recoup their investments in Lucasfilm and then in Disney Plus
Wrong. Chapek simply followed the schedule Bob Iger setup. Projects are greenlit years before they're released and Chapek was only CEO for 2 years before Iger took over.
Read about how terrible Iger transitioned to Chapek, Iger didn't really even totally step down which was a big reason why Chapek not only failed but why Iger quickly came back.
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