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re: White Men & Television Shows + What Happened?
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:43 pm to ShotGunGordan
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:43 pm to ShotGunGordan
Another victim thread.
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:44 pm to WheyCheddar
quote:It's funny that you say that. I read Barbara Tuchman's book on the Middle Ages last summer ( A Distant Mirror) and it is pretty amazing how the same complaints about women today (nagging, attention seeking) were made in the 14th century.
I wonder if, had tv shows existed in say 1300, that the portrayals of women would be different than now?
I think that TV has been very forward thinking in its portrayals of sex and race over the years.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:47 pm to dawgfan24348
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It's like entering a different world. I tell my wife constantly, hey, come look at this scene or that scene where a white man isn't portrayed as being literally retarded or, to the contrary, as having high moral values and common sense.
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You mean when movies and television actually started to incorporate different people and started to put them in prominent roles that used to be reserved for white dudes? Yes how awful Hollywood main roles aren't 100% white dudes anymore damn those other races and women
Good lord... Vaginal cleanup in Aisle 2.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:48 pm to BigAppleTiger
Pretty much this, just another whiny thread about how every role isn't dominated by white dudes or that the white guys aren't the same formulaic 50s characters they idolize
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:00 pm to dawgfan24348
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All these shows have strong white male characters who don't fit your asinine narrative
I was going to go through the list you presented one by one with refutations but, I decided to stop at Breaking Bad as I imagine you are just ridiculing white men.
As if a couple of meth cookers represent virtuous masculinity and strong white male characters.
I'm sure someone with your harmful ideals would imagine that degenerates whose characters glorified addiction, death, easy money, riches, and a super intelligent, lung cancer ridden chemistry savant who was selflessly hoarding money for his family before his impending death was great.
There was no concern for the millions and millions of kids who likely tried meth to see what the fantastic drug that their television idols were cooking up in the old trailer was like.
Role models, definitely.
This post was edited on 12/27/25 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:01 pm to WheyCheddar
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Wow it’s almost like these shows, which are 70 even nearly 80 years ago, didn’t do a good job of predicting how the country would change over decades and decades. I wonder if, had tv shows existed in say 1300, that the portrayals of women would be different than now?
Are you saying that shows represent the country?
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:15 pm to dawgfan24348
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Pretty much this, just another whiny thread about how every role isn't dominated by white dudes or that the white guys aren't the same formulaic 50s characters they idolize
Or just the opposite of what your hate-filled mind has concocted and is a thread asking why all white male characters are expressly made to seem as if they are stupid buffoons, waffling weaklings, mincing weenies, or sadistic, heartless killers, etc...
Why are they always set up to be the punchline or made to seem evil, conniving, and heartless or soulless, brainless, inept, or just big goofballs that every other character shows contempt for in their reactions to the white characters?
If it will help you relate to my concerns, imagine I'm a black person in the 1920-50's asking a question about why all the black characters they see have all the same characteristics I have rightly attributed to modern day white characters.
Image how that would make a black person feel back then? Can you empathize now; does that scenario break through the racial discrimination that you seemingly hold dear?
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:19 pm to ShotGunGordan
I have no idea what shows you must be watching. I was around for all those old shows, and I don’t have that reaction to present day tv. Maybe today shows are more likely to be realistic and show human frailty, but it’s not focusing on white men being bad, weak, etc. I think some of you have become thin skinned snowflakes…
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:29 pm to ShotGunGordan
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If it will help you relate to my concerns, imagine I'm a black person in the 1920-50's asking a question about why all the black characters they see have all the same characteristics I have rightly attributed to modern day white characters.
Image how that would make a black person feel back then? Can you empathize now; does that scenario break through the racial discrimination that you seemingly hold dear?
Don't expect honesty from that group. They are invested in their lies.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:35 pm to ShotGunGordan
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ShotGunGordan
First two episodes of the Pendragon Cycle from Daily Wire are available, if you're looking for an awesome show without woke stupidity and with strong white men (and women) represented. The rest will release in late January.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:36 pm to imjustafatkid
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Don't expect honesty from that group. They are invested in their lies.
I believe you are right. Some people in this thread seem to have hate in their hearts.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:37 pm to ShotGunGordan
Yeah God forbid a character has development like Jessie Pinkman
No let's just have every white male have the some cookie cutter characterization where he has no flaws and is "real man"
Also convient that you leave out Hank the badass DEA agent who does whatever it takes to root out the drug lords and cartels.
No let's just have every white male have the some cookie cutter characterization where he has no flaws and is "real man"
Also convient that you leave out Hank the badass DEA agent who does whatever it takes to root out the drug lords and cartels.
This post was edited on 12/27/25 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:38 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:
First two episodes of the Pendragon Cycle from Daily Wire are available, if you're looking for an awesome show without woke stupidity and with strong white men (and women) represented. The rest will release in late January.
Thanks, imjustafatkid, I'll check it out.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:41 pm to ShotGunGordan
Ralph Kramden
Archie Bunker
Al Bundy
Homer Simpson
Peter Griffin
The doofus dad template has been around for decades.
Archie Bunker
Al Bundy
Homer Simpson
Peter Griffin
The doofus dad template has been around for decades.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:44 pm to dawgfan24348
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Yeah God forbid a character has development like Jessie Pinkman
No let's just have every white male have the some cookie cutter characterization where he has no flaws and is "real man"
Glorifying drugs, death, murder, addiction, helplessness, and destruction of lives as a meth cook is far from cookie cutter, right?
The Pink Man developed a conscious, almost like a real human, as the show went on and for that we should all applaud? Hey look, I'm a great person and am actually the moral compass of the series but, yeah, I still like to give the meth to the children and stuff.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:49 pm to ShotGunGordan
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Glorifying drugs, death, murder, addiction, helplessness, and destruction of lives as a meth cook
That's not the point of the show at all, did you even watch the show?
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The Pink Man developed a conscious, almost like a real human, as the show went on and for that we should all applaud?
Yes that's called character development about how a terrible person has the capacity to make a turn and become a good person
I'd think a bible thumper like you would understand that
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:02 pm to dawgfan24348
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Yes that's called character development about how a terrible person has the capacity to make a turn and become a good person
I'd think a bible thumper like you would understand that
I've never been to a church; why have you now switched to bashing religious people? I can't make any sense out that tactic switch.
You seem, generally, to be unhappy and angry from what I've seen in your responses so far.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:03 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Comedies somewhat require someone to be goofy or dumb or you know funny in someway.
So when the dad is that character he seems dumb
when the dad is the straight man or comedic foil, he usually seems pretty reasonable.
So when the dad is that character he seems dumb
when the dad is the straight man or comedic foil, he usually seems pretty reasonable.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:16 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:
Game of Thrones
Ended up being a girl power series.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:23 pm to dawgfan24348
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