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re: Is rock dead?
Posted on 8/17/25 at 6:40 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 8/17/25 at 6:40 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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There are virtually no young rock bands that are beyond the niche level today.
Do you consider jam bands rock?
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:27 am to Bjorn Cyborg
I don’t think it will ever be totally dead because real rock ‘n’ roll is the basis for a lot of the music that is out there. It is the segment of music that the talent comes from.. Most of the popular music that is out there today is a blend of what used to be rock, country, soul…… Etc.. today’s music does not fit definite categories like it used to. And most of it is not good music. It is just overproduced sound garbage but if you dig deeper and look harder there is still some good rock ‘n’ roll. There is a young band in South Louisiana that plays good rock ‘n’ roll and it is amazing to see the number of people that come out to see them.(all ages) I believe real music listeners gravitate to this style of music.
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:54 am to Bjorn Cyborg
interesting question...rock will probably never die out completely .. i think the metal scene is very strong today ..lots of doom, thrash , death metal bands popping up BUT the classic rock type band ?? I dont k now ?? Great Van Something ??? they are a Led Zep rip off . RIval Sons are solid .Cant really name too many more though
Posted on 8/17/25 at 11:24 am to Bjorn Cyborg
This was being asked in 1972, for some perspective.
"Rock is dead they say,
Long Live Rock!"
"Rock is dead they say,
Long Live Rock!"
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:01 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Ghost really isn’t in the top 250 of Spotify’s most streamed?
Posted on 8/17/25 at 2:10 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Rock isn't dead... but it's time as the biggest selling form of popular music may be... and it's much harder for younger bands to make any money.
The "guitar hero" is not dead, either...he's bigger than ever... he just makes Instagram vids more then or instead of playing in a live band.
More guitars are sold to more kids than at any other time in history... but the rates of giving up after 6 months to a year are higher.
Those schools that teach and assemble entire bands (School of Rock, etc) are a huge business.
Now, let's focus in on Baton Rouge: Original music (other than stuff in the metal genres) is probably at the lowest level - as far as interest from the public - that it's been from the dawn of the rock era in the 50s. And that's not a knock on any of the local talent or the venues... it's a symptom of BR being a moribund suburban sprawl city... one that "consultants" have pointed to as a bellwether sign for a collapse of the young college graduate demographic (and one specifically cited by new LSU grads as a reason why they're going elsewhere... which becomes a chicken and an egg argument of sorts). This basic argument, which is kind of a cultural one at the base of it, has been presented to the city over and over and over since they started paying consultants to tell them how to revitalize downtown BR and stop the city from drying up in 1990... "Young people want vibrant social lives." The city always says "well, those young people need to concentrate on their jobs and get married and buy houses and have kids!" When you set yourself on that track, you become a place that educated young people leave the minute they can because they're bored... and your population ages until your city becomes a retirement community that only underemployed young people with no higher education are stuck in (which is increasingly the fate of several of LA's smaller cities).
Older people overwhelmingly just want to hear the songs from their teenaged years... even acts that once played original material in BR just kind of give in to demand and play only covers after a certain point. Again, no knock on the talent or the venues... it's just that fewer and fewer people here care.
The "guitar hero" is not dead, either...he's bigger than ever... he just makes Instagram vids more then or instead of playing in a live band.
More guitars are sold to more kids than at any other time in history... but the rates of giving up after 6 months to a year are higher.
Those schools that teach and assemble entire bands (School of Rock, etc) are a huge business.
Now, let's focus in on Baton Rouge: Original music (other than stuff in the metal genres) is probably at the lowest level - as far as interest from the public - that it's been from the dawn of the rock era in the 50s. And that's not a knock on any of the local talent or the venues... it's a symptom of BR being a moribund suburban sprawl city... one that "consultants" have pointed to as a bellwether sign for a collapse of the young college graduate demographic (and one specifically cited by new LSU grads as a reason why they're going elsewhere... which becomes a chicken and an egg argument of sorts). This basic argument, which is kind of a cultural one at the base of it, has been presented to the city over and over and over since they started paying consultants to tell them how to revitalize downtown BR and stop the city from drying up in 1990... "Young people want vibrant social lives." The city always says "well, those young people need to concentrate on their jobs and get married and buy houses and have kids!" When you set yourself on that track, you become a place that educated young people leave the minute they can because they're bored... and your population ages until your city becomes a retirement community that only underemployed young people with no higher education are stuck in (which is increasingly the fate of several of LA's smaller cities).
Older people overwhelmingly just want to hear the songs from their teenaged years... even acts that once played original material in BR just kind of give in to demand and play only covers after a certain point. Again, no knock on the talent or the venues... it's just that fewer and fewer people here care.
This post was edited on 8/17/25 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 8/17/25 at 5:08 pm to Lee B
TLDLee
Rock isn’t dead, but it isn’t “where the chicks are” right now. If local bands had “hot guys” that impressionable 21 year old girls wanted to bang, there would be a scene again in a heartbeat.
Chicks wanted to bang Kevin. Chicks wanted to bang Gabe. Chicks wanted to bang Wes. Chicks wanted to bang Josh. I’ve since lost track of the local scene.
Rock isn’t dead, but it isn’t “where the chicks are” right now. If local bands had “hot guys” that impressionable 21 year old girls wanted to bang, there would be a scene again in a heartbeat.
Chicks wanted to bang Kevin. Chicks wanted to bang Gabe. Chicks wanted to bang Wes. Chicks wanted to bang Josh. I’ve since lost track of the local scene.
This post was edited on 8/17/25 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:54 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
It's not healthy.
Yes, some bands still make highly derivative - practically cover - projects you can find if you comb endlessly for stuff, but rock got replaced by rap and dance pop... cheap crap that can be endlessly manufactured and cast like a movie.
Yes, some bands still make highly derivative - practically cover - projects you can find if you comb endlessly for stuff, but rock got replaced by rap and dance pop... cheap crap that can be endlessly manufactured and cast like a movie.
Posted on 8/17/25 at 10:00 pm to AUCom96
here's Sleep Token playing their headline set in front of the niche crowd of 75,000 people at Download Festival back in June
Posted on 8/17/25 at 10:11 pm to Brosef Stalin
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This board is one of the last places to go to get any idea of modern music.
Definitely this^ the only thing talked about are legacy acts. You would think The Beatles, Pink Floyd, and the Stones all were making new music these days.
Posted on 8/18/25 at 8:09 am to Breesus
quote:I do, and the quantity and quality of the music has never been better. Or, my current favorite guitar rock band which is tearing it up right now
Do you consider jam bands rock?
Posted on 8/18/25 at 8:47 am to Bjorn Cyborg
queens of the stone age is touring
no, rock isn't dead
no, rock isn't dead
Posted on 8/18/25 at 8:54 am to cgrand
Lars Jaumet is so effortlessly brilliant.
With SS or KK/DnC..must see.
With SS or KK/DnC..must see.
Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:01 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Dead? I just spent a weekend with 200,000 of my closest friends rocking till the fog rolled in!!!!!!
This post was edited on 8/18/25 at 9:04 am
Posted on 8/18/25 at 10:09 am to monsterballads
Rock is not dead, but Pop Music is what the youngsters like. Taylor Swift's last tour was the highest grossing tour of all time. Right behind her was, Coldplay, Beyonce, Pink, The Weekend, Bruno Mars, Shakira. The #1 song in the world right now is a k-pop song, Golden.
Posted on 8/18/25 at 1:04 pm to 49erReb
It is quite the opposite. Rock music is starting to have a resurgence across multiple genres of rock, especially in the metal and metalcore scenes.
There is a lot more blending of genres now instead of more pigeonholed band styles, which some will like and others won't. Undeniable though that they are starting to bring more fans into the rock scene, which will benefit everyone as they discover more and more they like.
There is a mix of your new bands like Sleep Token, Bad Omens, Spiritbox, Falling in Reverse, Jinjer, Knocked Loose, Bring me the Horizon, Lorna Shore, Slaughter to Prevail. That is a bunch of different genres/styles that are all very mainstream right now. Then you mix in that the popularity has gotten some older bands like Deftones, Avenged Sevenfold, Slayer, Pantera, Three Days Grace to do reunion tours or even new albums. Hell, most of the bars/concert vendue here in Bham are doing Emo/Goth/Rock DJ parties monthly now.
There isn't much along the lines of like southern rock & your like 70's style "classic rock" that is big right now, but if we are talking Rock in general, it is far from dead.
There is a lot more blending of genres now instead of more pigeonholed band styles, which some will like and others won't. Undeniable though that they are starting to bring more fans into the rock scene, which will benefit everyone as they discover more and more they like.
There is a mix of your new bands like Sleep Token, Bad Omens, Spiritbox, Falling in Reverse, Jinjer, Knocked Loose, Bring me the Horizon, Lorna Shore, Slaughter to Prevail. That is a bunch of different genres/styles that are all very mainstream right now. Then you mix in that the popularity has gotten some older bands like Deftones, Avenged Sevenfold, Slayer, Pantera, Three Days Grace to do reunion tours or even new albums. Hell, most of the bars/concert vendue here in Bham are doing Emo/Goth/Rock DJ parties monthly now.
There isn't much along the lines of like southern rock & your like 70's style "classic rock" that is big right now, but if we are talking Rock in general, it is far from dead.
This post was edited on 8/18/25 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 8/18/25 at 2:21 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Sleep Token, Bad Omens, and Spiritbox all take a lot of influence from pop. That's a big part of the reason they're so popular.
Those are great examples of bands that I can put a song on and my wife, who isn't into rock music more than early 2000's radio/mall pop punk, can listen to with me and not say "can you turn this off." "Just Pretend" is very catchy for almost anyone, but something like "Artificial Suicide" is way heavier to use Bad Omens as an example. Think those sort of bands will see their popularity continue to rise.
Bring Me the Horizon is another great example. I may enjoy "Diamonds Aren't Forever" but can put something like "Die4U" on in mixed company and not have it scare anyone. BMTH's ceiling will always be limited to a more rock-centric crowd, which is fine because they kickass.
Posted on 8/18/25 at 2:29 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Sleep Token
“Sleep Token is just Evanesence for bros”
- my wife (OT 10)
Posted on 8/18/25 at 2:30 pm to MyRockstarComplex
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MyRockstarComplex
Sounds like you should know.
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