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re: Davis already dictating teams. Doesn't want to go to Boston
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:44 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:44 pm to TigerinATL
Yeah I don’t see why Boston would do that
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:53 pm to Fun Bunch
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but I also don't think its the same situation at all, I
they each held a top 5 NBA player.
the M.O. to always get the best value possible
but that is what you are stuck with when you have a guy with 1 year left and has demanded to play in a certain city.
Now the Spurs may be in position to take back a 30yr old top 30ish NBA player, but the Pelicans surely arent.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:54 pm to cgrand
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this has potential to get really ugly, really fast.
and one more thing...davis is a straight up pussy for allowing/forcing gentry and holiday to answer questions yesterday about the situation he created. and thus far today, not a word out of him publicly
frick that.
be a man and own your shite...you want to be traded, then fine. stand in front of the cameras and say it. you were going to get fined anyway
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:55 pm to TigerinATL
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This is exactly why Boston will be all in and is the Pels trump card. AD sure as hell can't attract other FAs here, but he'd keep Kyrie in Boston.
Or both can just meet in LAL
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:00 pm to TigerinATL
quote:How so?
This is exactly why Boston will be all in and is the Pels trump card.
Why would AD settle for Kyrie in Boston, when he could get Kyrie and AD in LA?
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:01 pm to Lester Earl
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Or both can just meet in LAL
The Lakers don't have the cap space for that. At least one of them would need to come in via S&T.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:03 pm to TigerinATL
what do they have? someone could take a pay cut. AD says its not about money.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:13 pm to Lester Earl
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what do they have.
LeBron and the ghost of Deng = $42 million.
Lonzo/Ingram = $16 million
Then you have a bunch of under $2 million players like Kuzma/Zubac/Hart.
When you count roster charges to get you up to 12 they have about $71 million on the books or $38 in cap space.
But there's also the minor detail that AD isn't a FA this summer...
Fortunately it looks like Kyrie isn't represented by Klutch. If he was he could say he's definitely not returning to Boston and that does blow things up for the Pels. I do think Boston would still trade everything but Tatum for AD, but Tatum would be off limits if Kyrie wasn't in the picture.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:19 pm to TigerinATL
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If Kyrie is gone then the Celtics aren't sending us Tatum. Sending out Kyrie and Tatum in the trade would put AD in Boston as the only star caliber player. Why would he stick around for that?
Lonzo, Ingram, and future picks to boston
They would still be the top dog in the east. They wouldn't lose depth. Winning deep in the playoffs may sell him to stay. Boston would still have assets to pull off more trades if needed.
Lonzo/rozier
Hayward/brown
Ingram/brown
Davis/morris
Horford/whoever
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:21 pm to TigerinATL
The NBA should initiate a compensatory system like the NFL, but teams get extra ping pong balls. The qualifications can be based on contract signed, whether the player made the all star, all-nba...etc, but the premise is that if an all star walks and signs a max contract with another team, the team he left gets significantly increased odds of landing No 1 overall. This removes the threat of trade the star or lose him for nothing next season. It forces the team that wants the player to put together a package more appealing than the increased odds.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:26 pm to NOFOX
If the Lakers sign Kyrie in the offseason, that would seem like a problem for the Pels, but how the hell do the Lakers sign Davis to a max contract in free agency if the Pels hold tight or trade Davis for a one year rental? Wouldn’t the Pels actually gain leverage in that situation where they can ask for everything not named Irving or Lebron or they don’t get Davis at all?
Posted on 1/29/19 at 5:40 pm to ShamelessPel
It would help all involved if Kyrie would declare one way or the other. If he really wants to stay in Boston longterm, I still think you could engineer a two-step trade where he's part of the Davis deal at the deadline and just resigns or does a S&T with Boston after he voids his contract in July. That side-steps the rose rule impediment.
But he'd really have to want to play with AD in Boston to try a stunt like that. If he doesn't want to resign in Boston--AD or no AD--then Boston should consider dealing him at the deadline instead of losing him for nothing and possibly mucking up the chance to get Davis as well by waiting. I'd still prefer Brown + Smart + 3 or 4 first round picks over what the Lakers are offering...
But he'd really have to want to play with AD in Boston to try a stunt like that. If he doesn't want to resign in Boston--AD or no AD--then Boston should consider dealing him at the deadline instead of losing him for nothing and possibly mucking up the chance to get Davis as well by waiting. I'd still prefer Brown + Smart + 3 or 4 first round picks over what the Lakers are offering...
Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:32 pm to cgrand
quote:100%
and one more thing...davis is a straight up pussy for allowing/forcing gentry and holiday to answer questions yesterday about the situation he created. and thus far today, not a word out of him publicly
frick that.
be a man and own your shite...you want to be traded, then fine. stand in front of the cameras and say it. you were going to get fined anyway
Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:33 pm to TigerinATL
quote:Lowe/Windhorst/Beck would pretty certain that the Lakers could make it work if they signed Kyrie then traded for AD.
The Lakers don't have the cap space for that. At least one of them would need to come in via S&T.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:37 pm to JabarkusRussell
NBA model is fricking terrible.
players association raped the league during the last lock out.
players association raped the league during the last lock out.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:39 pm to shel311
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Lowe/Windhorst/Beck would pretty certain that the Lakers could make it work if they signed Kyrie then traded for AD.
Right, a trade would have to be involved. They were responding as if both AD and Kyrie could "choose" to go to the Lakers this summer, but AD isn't a FA and the Lakers don't have the cap space to sign 2 max level FAs if he was.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:40 pm to JabarkusRussell
Boston will not waste trading players and picks for someone that want sign long deal. Boogie 2.0 they not trying to have a "Hold my beer" moment like the Pelicans. Pelicans are in a bad spot to be honest,I hate it came to this for them.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:00 pm to Lester Earl
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being interested with 2-3 years of control is not the same as being interested with 1 year of control knowing said player wants to play in LAL ultimately
I call BS on a he only wants to play in LA. I think it’s more about Lebron wants to have a shot at a title this year so that are the rumors his camp is putting out there. Boston is a major market, a storied franchise, and known as a very well run organization.
Eirhee way Pels would be foolish making a deal this year. Any LAL deal available now will be available over the summer so you might as well see what Celtics have to offer.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:07 pm to New City Champ
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It would help all involved if Kyrie would declare one way or the other.
Disagree. Boston has the most to offer. If Kyrie said he’s out as a FA, Boston isn’t trading us Tatum at that point and could lower NYK offer.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 10:50 pm to ShamelessPel
Davis was dumb to announce this a week before the deadline. At least if he did it a month ago, it'd allow the Lakers a chance to trade with other teams to stock up on more trade pieces. They have to know their current offer is not enticing.
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