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re: Draft lottery
Posted on 5/16/23 at 9:50 am to brmark70816
Posted on 5/16/23 at 9:50 am to brmark70816
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Tons of wings, which we don't need
two years ago half the posts were seeking wings.
just take best available..
if some mf can shoot and is willing to guard his man I'm in.
I'd be working out the duke center lively. 7 1.
can't shoot.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 9:53 am
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Posted on 5/16/23 at 9:52 am to TeddyPadillac
That loss to Ignite was game 1. In the loss he put up 37pts, blocked 5 shots, and made 7 threes. They won game 2 a couple days later and he put up 36pts 11rbs, 4asts, 4bs, and only had 1 TO.
He’s outplayed the number 2 overall player last year and outplayed Scoot who will probably be 2 this year. If putting up numbers and being the best player on the court against your draft peers isn’t proving it against anyone worth a shite then your standard is too high.
He’s outplayed the number 2 overall player last year and outplayed Scoot who will probably be 2 this year. If putting up numbers and being the best player on the court against your draft peers isn’t proving it against anyone worth a shite then your standard is too high.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 10:08 am
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:03 am to Baron
Is it confirmed that Griff is the Pel's rep tonight?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:29 am to Solo
He is the Pels rep at the podium, another guy will be in the actual closed room where the drawing takes place
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:35 am to Baron
Basketball is a team sport. saying he outplayed a guy that plays PG, when he's a PF, is silly.
playing well in a glorified AAU game isn't proving anything.
We'll see what happens when he plays against legit 7 footers that are better than him. Playing against 175lb Chet Holmgren and fat arse kenneth Lofton isn't anywhere near what he'll encounter in an NBA game.
playing well in a glorified AAU game isn't proving anything.
We'll see what happens when he plays against legit 7 footers that are better than him. Playing against 175lb Chet Holmgren and fat arse kenneth Lofton isn't anywhere near what he'll encounter in an NBA game.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:40 am to TeddyPadillac
If putting up numbers and being the best player on the court against your draft peers isn’t proving it against anyone worth a shite then your standard is too high.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:41 am to TeddyPadillac
Some of the takes in this thread are laughable. It is almost like Pels fans want to justify not getting the #1 pick by claiming that one of the highest potential players to come out in 20 years really is not very good and that "we wouldn't want him anyway."
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:57 am to NOSHAU
again, i am not saying he isn't any good.
He without a doubt deserves to be the #1 pick.
Try to remember that when i talk about the concerns, and not completely ignore it.
All i'm saying is there is some concern with his shooting from 3, and the fact that he hasn't played legit competition in his life.
i swear some of you are incapable of reading critiques about players or coaches or teams without thinking that critique is the end all be all. It's possible to provide critiques about someone, while also still thinking that someone is great.
He without a doubt deserves to be the #1 pick.
Try to remember that when i talk about the concerns, and not completely ignore it.
All i'm saying is there is some concern with his shooting from 3, and the fact that he hasn't played legit competition in his life.
i swear some of you are incapable of reading critiques about players or coaches or teams without thinking that critique is the end all be all. It's possible to provide critiques about someone, while also still thinking that someone is great.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:21 am to TeddyPadillac
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He deserves the hype, but it's simply b/c of his body and athleticism, which without a doubt counts for a lot here.
But he's playing in a shite league, on a shite team, against shite opponents. and that might not matter, but there's a big difference between him playing for the worst team in France and being ok, and a guy like Luka playing for Real Madrid since he was 13, winning MVPs as a kid, and was playing professionally at 16 for a top Euro club winning MVP of the Euro league at 18, the youngest ever, and also winning the Euro league title.
Wemby is playing for the worst team in France, and left an ok team in France b/c he wasn't getting enough playing time so he went to the worst team to showcase himself for the NBA.
Maybe it'll work out, b/c talent usually trumps all, but is he really that much more talented than NBA players? He is going to struggle for a good 2-3 years b/c he's never played against a 6'6" guard that's going to block his shite at the rim. You think Joel Embiid is going to let him just waltz around him and dunk on him?
and as much as everyone tauts his shooting, he's a terrible 3 point shooter. 30% is terrible, and that's against shitty opponents. People just assume he'll get to the league and be a good shooter. skinny tall Durant shot 40% from 3 in his 1 year in college. Porzingis shot 36% from 3 as a 20 year old in his last year in Europe, and his 3P% for his nba career is 36%.
To me the shooting is the biggest thing that no one seems to want to talk about. All you see is highlights of him making shots, but he's been a pretty terrible shooter.
It's also about what he's doing at that size. His handle for being 7'5 is crazy. crossovers, stepbacks, and much more. We've never seen that kind of handle and skill at that size. And yes while the shooting numbers aren't great its the types of shots that are impressive, he shoots off movement and off the dribble which at 7'5 is also unheard of.
He's the best prospect i've seen. That doesn't mean he'll reach the potential but the ceiling for him is the highest i have seen
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:21 am to NOFOX
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Every team in the league would take him #1, but you’re going to take your analysis from some jack leg on Yt.
I watch YT all day while I work, so I watch a bunch of different shows like that. I think he's alright and made some fair points. He never said he shouldn't go first. He's pointing out concerns. I'm saying I wouldn't do it. I don't want him. If we won the 1st pick, I'd trade for a kings ransom..
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:27 am to brmark70816
For the pels, I'm starting to fall in love with leonard miller. 6'11 with a 7'2 wingspan. Great rebounder, he's a guy that can grab the board and take it the length of the court and score at the other end. His shot is improving fast. 30% from 3 but thats trending up based on prior years and he's a 79% ft shooter. He reminds me of pascal siakam. Would be a great backup 4 next year
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:32 am to RUFshreve
After 55 simulations on Tankthon we didn’t move up, so I gave up
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:49 am to TeddyPadillac
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But he's playing in a shite league, on a shite team, against shite opponents. and that might not matter, but there's a big difference between him playing for the worst team in France
Where did you see that Boulogne is the worst team in France ?
They were 3rd the last year, without Wembanyama. They aren't the worst team.
Just the 2 best teams in France can go to Euroleague, it doesn't mean that the 3rd best team is bad...
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like Luka playing for Real Madrid since he was 13, winning MVPs as a kid, and was playing professionally at 16 for a top Euro club winning MVP of the Euro league at 18, the youngest ever, and also winning the Euro league title.
Yes but French League is still better than NCAA , where there are no professional players. Yet players coming from NCAA are much more praised. French League is better than G-League also, where the collective plays aren't very developed.
In fact, for me : NBA > Euroleague > Liga > Turkish League > Italia League = French League > NBL > G-League > NCAA
But Wembanyama is the best scorer, best rebounder, best blocker and best eval in the French League actually, still a profesionnal league...Ofc , Doncic did better because it was in a tougher league
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and as much as everyone tauts his shooting, he's a terrible 3 point shooter. 30% is terrible, and that's against shitty opponents. People just assume he'll get to the league and be a good shooter. skinny tall Durant shot 40% from 3 in his 1 year in college. Porzingis shot 36% from 3 as a 20 year old in his last year in Europe, and his 3P% for his nba career is 36%.
That's why I don't compare Wembanyama to KD personally. Ralph Sampson is probably the best comparison.
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To me the shooting is the biggest thing that no one seems to want to talk about. All you see is highlights of him making shots, but he's been a pretty terrible shooter.
To me his body is the biggest question mark. We still don't know if a player over 7'2 can get a no injury prone career.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:54 am to brmark70816
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I watch YT all day while I work, so I watch a bunch of different shows like that. I think he's alright and made some fair points. He never said he shouldn't go first. He's pointing out concerns. I'm saying I wouldn't do it. I don't want him. If we won the 1st pick, I'd trade for a kings ransom..
That's a gamble in itself.
What team is gonna give up a young star (a cost controlled one at that) and a bunch of unprotected picks? Okc is the only one I can fathom doing that and even then, sga has to be the guy im getting, not chet.
The blessing of having a bad team is that you should be able to stockpile a few young players to grow together. "accelerating" it and you run into dallas' problem. Wemby can come in and not expect to win for 5 years and that'd be perfect. But 5 years and no picks? you're so fricked.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:58 am to NolaTiger52
YouTube has one from the other day where we actually got first and it was one where a lot of mid-late teams jumped.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:03 pm to NolaTiger52
I went 103 today and we finally got the 3rd pick! Optimism is at an all time high 
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:07 pm to Balsamic_duck
Im in the same boat. I think he will end up moving up draft boards where we cant get him but I posted this a couple weeks ago
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I think a player we should take a hard look at is Leonard Miller. While he doesn’t have top end athleticism which may limit his upside he is very quick laterally for his size so I don’t think he will have any issues switching. Offensively he's shown ability to score in a multitude of ways (PnR, Fast Break, Initiating, Cutting), and had one of, if not the best shooting percentage in the paint in the G League. Can finish with both hands and his range stretches out to the 3 point line. I think rebounding may be a bit of a concern until he adds strength. Saw him progress a lot throughout the season as he added strength, and has a frame where adding more shouldn’t be a concern.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:15 pm to brmark70816
quote:Good thing you are not a GM as you would not be one for long. That is a great way to get fired.
If we won the 1st pick, I'd trade for a kings ransom..
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:17 pm to dirtytigers
Much rather Coulibaly if you're going for pure upside.
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