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Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:23 pm to
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limited athleticism

Lol???
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:28 pm to
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Lol???



Your line-up has one plus athlete (Zion). They rest are average, at best, for the positions. Plus you have two that are oversized playing out of position and will be at a massive speed disadvantage the entire time they play together.

I don't see why this is not obvious. Nobody else is playing 6'8 and 6'9 backcourts together. Speed and quickness matter..
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:37 pm to
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It's the best value contract we saw signed today.


I have no problem with the Herb contract. Fair to both sides with each side getting certain hidden benefits outside of the actual $$ numbers.

Seems the logical way to look at it is: Pels had Herb for the upcoming season for $1.8M & coulda just stuck with that & then worried about the future later...& Pels aren't gonna just "give away" that HUGE bargain season they had left of Herb at $1.8M & get nothing back. So, the $1.8M was kinda baked into the cake. Result? Pels actually offered Herb the $1.8M for the 1st year...then added a 3-yr $52M for the final 3 years. Then...for obvious reasons, the Pels moved the yearly $$ around to gain maximum benefit and ended up with $12M, $13M, $14M and then $15M for the 4th & final year.

So basically...Pels signed Herb for an additional 3 yrs/$52M...on top of his 1 yr/1.8M, which they already had. An average of $17.33M for those extra 3 years sounds about right to me...especially when those added benefits which both sides gained by doing it this way...are considered.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:48 pm to
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Your line-up has one plus athlete (Zion)

Stopped right here. Turn on more games pal.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:11 pm to
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Teams will run that squad off the court.



Weird take considering Zion alone with any other 4 dudes wins his minutes consistently.
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:14 pm to
Apparently Zion is the only “plus” athlete in a lineup with Trey Herb and Brandon Ingram
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 6:35 am to
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Apparently Zion is the only “plus” athlete in a lineup with Trey Herb and Brandon Ingram



Yes, in comparison to other comparable players with similar size.

What you are proposing is not common. Teams go smaller, not bigger. There is no world where McCollum is not on the floor to start or finish. The push is for him to slide off ball, which requires us adding another PG. We have had to use Alvarado the past couple of seasons to make that happen. Which is why Scoot was a dream addition.

You are just trying to shoehorn Jones and Murphy into those closing line ups. That's not ideal. The only reason Murphy got so much time was Ingram and Zion missing 90 games combined last year. If we have any health luck at all, someone is sitting (maybe multiple guys). Some people on here are in for a rude awakening..
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 7:28 am to
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Some people on here are in for a rude awakening


You sure are man.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 7:31 am to
There’s no universe where Trey isn’t a “plus athlete”
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 7:41 am to
Apparently I woke up in the universe where he is a “limited athlete” hmmmm
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 7:48 am to
Murphy is 6’8” with a 7’ wingspans and 38” vertical

He defines modern NBA wing
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 7:56 am to
He has completely elite shooting numbers and was the runner up in the dunk contest. I mean…
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 7:57 am to
Max Strus just got 4/63
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 8:10 am to
Herb Jones looks like pocket change
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112696 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 10:06 am to
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Yes, in comparison to other comparable players with similar size.
Have you never seen Trey Murphy play basketball?
Posted by CarlJH25
Slidell
Member since Apr 2009
181 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 10:34 am to
Trey is the mold of an athletic wing.

I would say we have more plus athletes on this team than most. Herb, Trey, Dyson, Larry, Zion, Kira, are all plus athletes.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 10:38 am to
Y'all, when brmark has one of his "we should trade for Westbrook" takes, you just have to ignore him.
Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:14 pm to
same deal Austin Reeves got and he can play offense.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:32 pm to
Not the same deal Reaves got. Reaves has an option in year three. Plus a trade kicker.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 3:35 pm to
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He has completely elite shooting numbers and was the runner up in the dunk contest. I mean…
the question will be can he double his usage (and is that even possible on this team) and maintain the elite lever production

I sure hope so
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