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re: Offseason player trade rumors thread
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:29 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:29 pm to TeddyPadillac
This is an old quote, but seems like Carlisle would want to keep McDermott too,
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Dwain Price @DwainPrice · Feb 22, 2018
After today's practice, Carlisle compared Doug McDermott's play to Hall of Famer Reggie Miller, who played for Carlisle in Indy. Carlisle: "I think Reggie is a valid comparison. We just got to do everything we can to take advantage of him offensively and protect him on D."
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 1:30 pm
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:37 pm to kadillak
Supposedly the Warriors really value Beal. If you figure that Thompson will have to play more on the wing. So Beal with Curry/Thompson would be a better fit, plus he is a better player than Wiggins. I don't know how much it would take to get Beal..
Not to derail, but what if the Warriors decide to tear it down? Their window is over and they have some nice pieces to start a rebuild. Their tax bill was 150M. It would be double that next season, it they carry similar salaries. Could they move everybody and start over?
Not to derail, but what if the Warriors decide to tear it down? Their window is over and they have some nice pieces to start a rebuild. Their tax bill was 150M. It would be double that next season, it they carry similar salaries. Could they move everybody and start over?
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:46 pm to NOSHAU
Adams/Bledsoe = Adams or Bledsoe
You're taking on more longer term bad money for less shorter term bad money.
Yes, you can.
Now, there may be other teams bidding where you may have to add a far out future protected 1st to it to beat their offers, but Buddy is considered a long term negative contract, so they are not getting much more than a shorter term negative contract in exchange for him.
You're taking on more longer term bad money for less shorter term bad money.
Yes, you can.
Now, there may be other teams bidding where you may have to add a far out future protected 1st to it to beat their offers, but Buddy is considered a long term negative contract, so they are not getting much more than a shorter term negative contract in exchange for him.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:48 pm to brmark70816
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don't know how much it would take to get Beal..
At least 7+14+2 future 1sts + Wiseman + Wiggins I would imagine.
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what if the Warriors decide to tear it down?
they won't
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:55 pm to Fun Bunch
You are probably right. But the GM said he won't go over 400M (almost 300 in tax). If they extend Curry, they will never be under that figure again. If Thompson isn't healthy or a shell, they never compete again with this group. Those hard choices are coming soon..
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:23 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:If I'm Washington I get as many firsts as they can offer, what are they going to do? Say no? Doubtful
At least 7+14+2 future 1sts + Wiseman + Wiggins I would imagine.
I think if they make the picks and trade the players in this draft they can trade 22, 24, 26 and 28 firsts. I could be wrong on that though.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:45 pm to brmark70816
If the Warriors were to get Beal, there will be an opportunity for 3rd team to take Wiggins, and send a bad contract and maybe a future first or two to Washington.
I wouldn't mind being that team. I think Wiggins has matured and he's a much better player than he was a year or two ago.
I wouldn't mind being that team. I think Wiggins has matured and he's a much better player than he was a year or two ago.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:59 pm to TeddyPadillac
Sending a "bad contract" for someone whose contract is 2x as much and won't move any needles for us is a bad idea.I agree Wiggins has gotten better but that's 33 mil for a second round exit and we would lose 1sts and still have 1 of Bledsoe/ Adams.
Would rather try to send Adams, a 1st, and fillers to Washington for Wiseman to end up here.
Would rather try to send Adams, a 1st, and fillers to Washington for Wiseman to end up here.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:12 pm to Dantheman504
I'm not interested in Wiseman. we have Jax.
You don't have to give up too much to get Wiggins, and he's a good player. We'd still have all the assets we need to make any other trades.
A second round exit next year would be awesome, and i'd take that right now if it was given to me in a heartbeat.
We are a growing team. The team we end up with at the end of this upcoming season isn't the team for the foreseeable future, unless we unload the picks for another big time player.
We could trade for Wiggins, sending Bledsoe to Washington and 22 1st and another future first, Beal going to GSW. S&T Lonzo to the Clips for Beverly and Kennard and their 21 1st. We'd be taking on salary from them, which is why we are getting the 1st, and then we would need to find a place to dump Adams so that we can use the MLE and stay under the tax.
Beverly/NAW/Kira
BI/Kennard/Didi(learn from Beverly how to be a bulldog)
Wiggins/Moody/Naji
Zion/MLE/minimum guy instead of Iwundu
Jaxson/Billy/FA minimum like Khem Birch
That's 15 right there. Make 2 of the 4 picks in the 2nd round. If they make the team, give them two way contracts.
Beverly is a career 39% 3 point shooter and we'll be the bulldog defender we desperately need. and he's an expiring, so basically a Bledsoe upgrade.
You don't have to give up too much to get Wiggins, and he's a good player. We'd still have all the assets we need to make any other trades.
A second round exit next year would be awesome, and i'd take that right now if it was given to me in a heartbeat.
We are a growing team. The team we end up with at the end of this upcoming season isn't the team for the foreseeable future, unless we unload the picks for another big time player.
We could trade for Wiggins, sending Bledsoe to Washington and 22 1st and another future first, Beal going to GSW. S&T Lonzo to the Clips for Beverly and Kennard and their 21 1st. We'd be taking on salary from them, which is why we are getting the 1st, and then we would need to find a place to dump Adams so that we can use the MLE and stay under the tax.
Beverly/NAW/Kira
BI/Kennard/Didi(learn from Beverly how to be a bulldog)
Wiggins/Moody/Naji
Zion/MLE/minimum guy instead of Iwundu
Jaxson/Billy/FA minimum like Khem Birch
That's 15 right there. Make 2 of the 4 picks in the 2nd round. If they make the team, give them two way contracts.
Beverly is a career 39% 3 point shooter and we'll be the bulldog defender we desperately need. and he's an expiring, so basically a Bledsoe upgrade.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:16 pm to TeddyPadillac
No way in hell any team is paying to take on Wiggins in a trade where the Warriors get Beal. They should be paying the freight for that.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:27 pm to TeddyPadillac
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If you want to Ainge it up and try to be a jew about every trade
Anti-Semitism is not cool.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 6:07 pm to TigerinATL
I don’t see Wiggins as carrying negative value anymore. He’s a scorer who played great defense last year and shot 38% from 3. You might not have to give up much to get him, but they aren’t going to just give him away, especially if you’re dumping a bad contract onto Washington.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 6:30 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I don’t see Wiggins as carrying negative value anymore.
You've liked Wiggins since we were looking at Jrue trades and I think you value his improvement more than the rest of the league because of that. Call it vindication bias. If CJ reportedly has negative value, why would Wiggins be positive?
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if you’re dumping a bad contract onto Washington.
If Washington wants Wiggins they'll keep him. If they don't want Wiggins then you'd save them money and turn a $50 bill that very few stores would accept into 2 $20s that would be much easier to do business with. Maybe I send 2nds, but if they want a 1st, that seems like Golden State's problem.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:07 pm to TigerinATL
I’m not saying he has positive value, but it isn’t negative.
I’m not asking to take Wiggins on like he’s your third star. He helps you win right now, while still maintaining your assets. He’s also the guy you trade if you can get a star, and he’ll be an expiring next offseason so it won’t be hard to move him if that’s the case.
I’m not asking to take Wiggins on like he’s your third star. He helps you win right now, while still maintaining your assets. He’s also the guy you trade if you can get a star, and he’ll be an expiring next offseason so it won’t be hard to move him if that’s the case.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:17 am to TeddyPadillac
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According to league sources, the Cavaliers have begun to explore trade options involving leading scorer Collin Sexton. Sexton, 22, is extension-eligible this summer, averaged 24.3 points per game last season, and appears likely to seek a maximum contract. Also eligible for an extension is 23-year-old center Jarrett Allen, who is also expected to command a lucrative deal from Cleveland. There’s belief around the league that Cleveland prefers to move on from Sexton, rather than sign him to a deal that would greatly inhibit their flexibility moving forward. The Cavs hold the No. 3 pick in the draft, and could end up selecting another guard, which could further expedite the process of a trade.
Sexton is a name that's been discussed a few times. This is from Jeremy Woo's draft combine notes from yesterday. LINK
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The Timberwolves announce its front bench coaching staff, naming Joseph Blair, Micah Nori and Pablo Prigioni as assistant coaches. No David Vanterpool.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:13 am to Soggymoss
~40 mil of outgoing salary for a rookie contract?
That will work!
That will work!
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:25 am to Soggymoss
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Report: There’s a ’75 percent chance’ the Miami Heat trade Tyler Herro this offseason LINK
I wonder if they are looking to unload him for a 1st rounder. They have Oladipo, Nunn and Robinson to sign this offseason (and make a decision on Dragic). Would you send #10 for him, or is that too steep (i.e. would need something coming back in future years as well)?
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 11:27 am
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:28 am to Pelefraan 1
Miami has the ability to create a max slot this offseason, so yes it would work salary wise if they decline a couple options.
Or, they could just pick up those options and send salary out.
Not hard at all to make work guy.
Or, they could just pick up those options and send salary out.
Not hard at all to make work guy.
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