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Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56319 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:00 pm to
Ace feels like the perfect fit for the hornets and I don’t mean that in a good way. Like yall said he’s a huge boom or bust prospect. I wouldn’t be mad if they loved him and actually did make moves to get ace but I’m skeptical

Regardless it would be nice for our FO to make a move for a guy in the draft that that loved
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8327 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:53 pm to
No thanks, Bailey has boom or bust all over him and we need guys that are ready to contribute now. Stay at 7 and take Kon or if you think Utah wants him try to move up for him. Kon is the easy choice here and it’s so clear that Dumars will no doubt frick it up.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13088 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:11 pm to
Oh great let’s draft the next Brandon Ingram cause that worked out so fricking well the first time.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 5:59 am to
Might have worked better if Z would’ve been available to play in the playoffs and play in games.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 6:00 am
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:25 am to
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Might have worked better if Z would’ve been available to play in the playoffs and play in games.


Or if we didn't build a janky arse roster to "fit" with Zion then repeatedly ask Ingram to lead it without Lazy Fat.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 6:26 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
129061 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:56 am to
We have a coach that hates rookies, doesn't like to play them, and doesn't like to develop them. He hates offensive players that don't play defense

Let's trade a very established vet for the biggest boom or bust player in the draft that is 100% offense

Sounds good
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56319 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:57 am to
I’ll say this. if all it takes to go from 7 to 3 is #7, Herb, and the Indy pick to get a guy you love in the draft, that’s good value. Herb is worth a mid - late first at best and I don’t expect that to get better and the Indy pick is more than likely a late first as well.

You’re not winning with Herb next year anyway and he’ll only have one more year left on his contract after this upcoming season. I’d pull the trigger
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13583 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:28 am to
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he’ll only have one more year left on his contract after this upcoming season.
So, 2 more years.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56319 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:35 am to
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So, 2 more years.
yes and I’m saying we’re going to be bad next year. Next year is a waste in my opinion and his value will go down with only a year left on his contract
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 10:40 am
Posted by Tigerjim09
Member since Jun 2021
97 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:56 pm to
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I’ll say this. if all it takes to go from 7 to 3 is #7, Herb, and the Indy pick to get a guy you love in the draft, that’s good value.

I actually agree with you, I know we all love herb but he’s not the player that is going to elevate this team to a championship level. We do not attract elite free agents so imo we need to take swings in the draft.
If Bailey hits his ceiling then the franchise looks completely different and Zion can be a number two with the load taken off of him. At that point we could maybe compete for a championship, but continuing to run it back with the same roster just because we like guys like Herb and Alvarado isn’t going to get us there.
Posted by Pelicans15
Bossier
Member since Mar 2019
938 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 1:15 pm to
Yeah dumars drafted darco and that was horrible. Even in the moment it didn't make sense. But Detroit did just win the championship. They had all t starters in the all star game. They were clearly a great team. It's not like they were a 10 win team trying to rebuild. I'm not forgiving him for the horrible pick. But he did build a great team before that.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
13136 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 1:16 pm to
And if Bailey ends up a bust and Herb gets back to his DPOY level with another team? You have Dyson all over again on these boards. Trading herb and the assets in a package is fine but it needs to be for a big fish. Not the leftover of a two man draft. Reeks desperation and poor planning.
Posted by AOC4PREZ2028
Member since Apr 2025
305 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 1:53 pm to
Say what you will about Herb's value to this rebuilding Pelicans squad, but he is a very valuable asset on the trade market and using him to move up a few slots in the draft is ridiculous. Even if it is from 7 to 3.
Posted by Tigerjim09
Member since Jun 2021
97 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

And if Bailey ends up a bust and Herb gets back to his DPOY level with another team? You have Dyson all over again on these boards. Trading herb and the assets in a package is fine but it needs to be for a big fish. Not the leftover of a two man draft. Reeks desperation and poor planning.

If Bailey busts and Herb returns to his dpoy level then we are exactly where we are right now anyway, not competing for championships. Hanging out in the middle because you’re scared of looking dumb in a trade is the worst place to be. I also just don’t see a big fish who’s realistic that makes sense. Personally I’d rather only give up Herb and take a swing on ace than giving up herb and a boatload of picks for 36 year old Durant.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 2:44 pm
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21401 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 2:48 pm to
Please don’t give next’s lottery pick for this kid. It’s not worth it
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11318 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Yeah dumars drafted darco and that was horrible. Even in the moment it didn't make sense. But Detroit did just win the championship. They had all t starters in the all star game. They were clearly a great team. It's not like they were a 10 win team trying to rebuild. I'm not forgiving him for the horrible pick. But he did build a great team before that.


They won the Championship after they drafted Milicic. They won it his rookie year.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
13136 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 4:58 pm to
I rather sit at 7 and draft a super high potential prospect in Noa Essengue who just measured in at 6'10 barefoot and a 9'2 standing reach without having to give up any assets and who has just as high of a ceiling as Bailey.

There's no reason to gamble on Bailey if you have to give up give up that much for him.
Posted by Tigerjim09
Member since Jun 2021
97 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 5:30 pm to
That’s fine with me too. Personally I’d take fears because I think he’s Maxey 2.0, I’m good with sticking at our spot and picking. I was just saying that I wouldn’t hate trading up to take a swing on maybe the highest upside player in the draft if it only costs herb and #7.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:03 am to
Fears might be good, but he isn’t anywhere close to Maxey. Hate to say it, but he has a lot of what a bad Jordan Poole has in his game. Far from a can’t miss imo.

If he’s good Jordan Poole, that’s a hit, if he’s the bad version, that’s disgusting.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 12:08 am
Posted by Gcaro76
Houma
Member since Aug 2017
147 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:39 am to
Pahahahahahaha
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