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re: Anthony Bourdain - Douchey or Awesome
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:45 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:45 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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as I disliked the people who liked him.
Bourdain felt the same way.
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:51 pm to skylane
He was awesome, imo... I don't watch much TV but I made an effort to watch when he was on. I must admit I was shocked when he offed himself.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:51 pm to skylane
He had a “French” attitude toward the world and his style, given his training and family obviously.
And the French are so often misunderstood. His show was awesome, love or hate him.
And the French are so often misunderstood. His show was awesome, love or hate him.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Yeah if you watch the UK shows you see that he can kick arse in back of house, but the GR quirks that are well known is very much a developed and projected persona.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:06 pm to skylane
I think he genuinely connected with people/strangers but he was absolutely self righteous and pretentious in an edgelord way.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:08 pm to bayouteche
When I was a younger man, I found his cynicism, wit and way with words to be profound.
As an old man now, I much prefer the boundless joy and optimism of Phil Rosenthal.
As an old man now, I much prefer the boundless joy and optimism of Phil Rosenthal.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:12 pm to Sao
quote:Wasn't he the one it was said that hit the Popeyes buffet in Lafayette multiple times during his time there?
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what's wrong with this quote
Was thinking the same. It's like visiting NYC for a weekend and choosing to eat at Sbarro Times Square each night
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:17 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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in an edgelord way.
Are you saying he was trolling with the intent to upset people's feelings?
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:20 pm to Dragula
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he seemed to enjoy a lot of things, good food, good drinks, good conversation.
Everything except life, I guess
I think he enjoyed it at times.
He also was battling depression and at times addiction.
I don't think of people going through depression as in their right mind, so the decisions they make during that time may not represent them as a whole.
Also, there's a non-zero chance it wasn't actually a suicide.
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:38 pm to Funky Tide 8
He was known to have alienated just about everyone around him especially back in the day when he was a heroin junkie.
A lot of high end chefs are world class pricks and it catches up with them. I had known John Besh since he was at LSU. He was an incredible douche back in the 80s.....and he stayed that way. Same with a lot of the chefs, they are caught up in themselves
A lot of high end chefs are world class pricks and it catches up with them. I had known John Besh since he was at LSU. He was an incredible douche back in the 80s.....and he stayed that way. Same with a lot of the chefs, they are caught up in themselves
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:40 pm to Jake88
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Wasn't he the one it was said that hit the Popeyes buffet in Lafayette multiple times during his time there?
Pretty sure he compared it to a religious experience.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:44 pm to Salamander_Wilson
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When I was a younger man, I found his cynicism, wit and way with words to be profound.
As an old man now, I much prefer the boundless joy and optimism of Phil Rosenthal.
100% this
I'd rather watch Phil. Phil also lists everywhere he's been on his website so you know where these places are located
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:44 pm to Corinthians420
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I think he enjoyed it at times.
He also was battling depression and at times addiction.
I don't think of people going through depression as in their right mind, so the decisions they make during that time may not represent them as a whole.
Also, there's a non-zero chance it wasn't actually a suicide.
I can agree with this, well said.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:58 pm to Giantkiller
He basically goes to off the beaten path places around the world that the average person would never be able to access anyway but it makes for good tv
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 4:48 pm to Odysseus32
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He’s declaring his perspective as superior in the name of authenticity and culture.
The quote you posted was a question, not a declaration. Rhetorical yes, but still not a declaration.
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I’d like to try local food if I travel somewhere, but I’m not going to get upset at others if they don’t. I don’t care what another person eats.
Where did he say that he was upset about anything in that quote?
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To me, this is the same as any other iteration of telling people what their preferences should be. He isn’t the arbiter of taste.
Again, the quote that you posted didn't do this.
He was a writer, he posed a rhetorical question in an attempt to make you ponder his words.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 5:09 pm to KiwiHead
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He was known to have alienated just about everyone around him especially back in the day when he was a heroin junkie.
I don't think that that makes him a prick. His lifestyle/career wasn't one that exactly lent itself to friendships, and he admitted that.
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Bourdain was often the first to mention how few friends he really had outside of filming his television shows. With a rigorous travel schedule that kept him on the road for nearly two-thirds of the year, it was difficult for Bourdain to maintain both romantic and friendly relationships. "The kind of care and feeding required of friends, I'm frankly incapable of. I'm not there," said Bourdain to The New Yorker. "I'm not going to remember your birthday. I'm not going to be there for the important moments in your life. We are not going to reliably hang out, no matter how I feel about you. For fifteen years, more or less, I've been traveling two hundred days a year. I make very good friends a week at a time."
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 5:09 pm to Jcorye1
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You sound insufferable… but at least it sounds like you know how insufferable you are, so i guess you got that goin for ya .
I fight it constantly, I'm just designed to see the small issues and problems that always exist in the world. Made me a great auditor, and I can usually keep it to internal thoughts, but frick it's a constant fight.
You should just become a superhero- Insufferable Man ! I could see you fitting into the Marvel universe, with ur superhuman ability to ‘see the small issues and problems that always exist in the world .’
Posted on 7/19/24 at 5:10 pm to skylane
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Douchey or Awesome
Why not both?
Posted on 7/19/24 at 5:17 pm to holdmuh keystonelite
quote:I like both of them but they're not really in the same space in my mind, despite both coming from cooking backgrounds. Ramsey is a legit renowned chef, and fine dining and the process of creating Michelin star level has always been front and center with him, when he's not doing staged kitchen interventions or judging cooking competitions.
I feel that he was a POS. I prefer Gordon Ramsey.
Bourdain was a regular working cook, prepping, cleaning, and banging out orders for 12 hours a day, who initially found fame as a writer, shedding light on the life the 99.999% of cooks that aren't winning James Beard awards and making 6 figures and are just grinding it out. He was, by most accounts, a pretty good to slightly above average cook.
As a regular working cook, myself, I appreciate both of them, but Bourdain was far more relatable to me, aside from the whole NYC lifestyle, which is admittedly foreign.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 5:19 pm to Funky Tide 8
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He was a writer, he posed a rhetorical question in an attempt to make you ponder his words.
If you'd like to interpret it that way, have at it.
Based on all of the things I've seen him in, I'm interpreting it as sanctimony dressed up as a rhetorical question.
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