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re: Experian: Millennials have horrible credit

Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:11 pm to
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I pay for everything with credit card, you are dumb not to, they give you free money for using the card.



Not really...


If I pay you 100 cash for a good, you get 100

If I pay you 100 credit for a good, you get say 95 to 98 dollars and the credit card company gets the rest. Nicking a few dollars off you upfront may not seem like much but it adds up. Allowing a few companies (Visa MasterCard AMEX) such a near monopoly is never good for the consumer.

In the 1980's, AMEX was making 200+ million a year just on the interest on the float between when they got the cash and when they had to give it up.

When PayPal was formed their business model allowed massive income just on their float.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:14 pm to
You're talking about the cost of doing business for the store or vendor you purchased from.

That's not an effect on the purchaser. Unless you want to argue the price of goods goes up to compensate.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:15 pm to
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Unless you want to argue the price of goods goes up to compensate.


Cost of business are always passed on to the consumer.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:18 pm to
Right and if you're going down that road, that's a different conversation entirely.

I pay $100 cash and that's it.

I pay $100 on my credit card and get cash/points back. That is free money to me for using the card.

With the obvious caveat of paying it off in time.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 6:20 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:20 pm to
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Compared with the national average of 701, millennials had an average FICO Score of 665 in the fourth quarter of 2018, according to Experian data


This millenial feels bad for the rest of the national population and their awful credit scores.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:21 pm to
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Probably because they try to pay for everything with credit. I mean we are talking about the generation that doesn't like cash or checks.


Paying with cash or check is outright stupid in 2019.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:22 pm to
Cash will always have its place, but bringing up checks in 2019 is retarded.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:23 pm to
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Cost of business are always passed on to the consumer.


Including ones that pay cash and check, so your point is irrelevant
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:24 pm to
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I’m calling bullshite on 701 being the national average. There’s a ton of people with awful credit.


Bunch of young/ undiverse creditors out there rising that average probably. You can pump your score up really quickly at 18 with a small credit card but in reality you couldn’t get approved for much of anything with a profile like that. Most people are in the 600s
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:24 pm to
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Paying with cash or check is outright stupid in 2019

My cocaine dealer doesn't take Square dude
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:24 pm to
So millennials have a few K in CC debt, and a ton of student loan debt. Yeah, I an see where that would weigh down on their credit score.
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:25 pm to
Are most of you going off your credit karma credit score?
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:25 pm to
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I pay $100 cash and that's it.


Correct, no middleman
(US government acts as middleman for free)

quote:

I pay $100 on my credit card and get cash/points back. That is free money to me for using the card.


No, they are just paying you a % of what they are taking from you. Sorta like folks who get tax rebate checks and think it is a good thing. It really means you overpaid your taxes and the government used your money interest free till they had you cash the check.

It is interesting that you and others believe it is "free money" when it is really a percentage of your own money they are paying you with. The bigger issue is you are providing them with data about your buying habits they can resell and make more money for themselves.

If I pay cash they can not track my spending habits and resell that data.
Posted by 9001
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:25 pm to
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$5,231


If that's all they got then I'd say they're doing fantastic. Still, debt is debt.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:26 pm to
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My cocaine dealer doesn't take Square dude


I’ll amend to exclude black markets from my previous statement
Posted by cable
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:26 pm to
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ringing up checks in 2019 is retarded.


Jussie Smolett still writes checks.

Posted by Tulane_STEM_ALUM
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:26 pm to
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calling bullshite on 701 average


100% agree!
Look at all debt consolidation stuff on TV!
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:28 pm to
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It is interesting that you and others believe it is "free money" when it is really a percentage of your own money they are paying you with


Do you really think we don't know this? It's easier to just say free money.

It's literally in the name. "cash back" directly states it's your money being paid back.

The point is, cash doesn't do that.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:28 pm to
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Cost of business are always passed on to the consumer.



Aside from SOME gas stations let me know the next time you get a 2-5% discount fort paying in cash, sucker.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:28 pm to
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Including ones that pay cash and check, so your point is irrelevant


Cash has no transaction cost

Checks have near zero transaction costs

Neither method generates annuity returns to a very limited corporate sphere.
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