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Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Lithium
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:14 am to
I'm going next week. Saw it on Broadway a few years ago
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:17 am to
A REAL man doesn’t showy tune and dancy dance, he pressure washes. I’ve been pressure washing non- stop since 1994. Chicks find my natural musk irresistible, Broadway Boy.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:21 am to
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Went on Sunday and enjoyed the first half before intermission over the second half. Regardless, best show this season even over Les Mis and Book or Morman.

The guy who played King George was my favorite. Hamilton crushed it as well, my wife saw the original cast in nyc and said that this Hamilton did just as well as Lin Manuel.

Absolutely loved Hamilton. I thought it was fantastic. It is probably one of the best shows I have seen (my personal favorite is Phantom). I thought Les Mis was bad. I did not enjoy that at all.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33044 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:27 am to
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cheered with everyone else when Burr said “immigrants make this county great”

First of all... The line is "imigrants, we get the job done" and it is sung between Alexander Hamilton and Marquis De Lafayette... Both of whom were imigrants.

The show is great. I've seen it twice.

The downvoters itt are just people who know nothing about the show other than it has a largely black cast. They then put their own beliefs on what it is about from that point alone. The show is not political (other than being about founding politics...) And it is not particularly divisive at all. It is a hip-hop showing of a founding fathers story that is often passed over as a side note to the George Washington story.
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:32 am to
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Hamilton


Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33044 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:34 am to
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Except for the part where they made one of the founding fathers into a black guy.

You know Hamilton was likely a darker skinned dude, right? He was a Caribbean immigrant.

And that Lin Manuel Miranda isn't black.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:38 am to
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a hip-hop showing


just lost me
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:05 am to
People seem to dress well at the Saenger. The big Broadway theatre in Hollywood, people dress like bums off the street.
New York is the other side of the coin. If you don't have a coat and tie you're underdressed.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26225 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:07 am to
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New York is the other side of the coin. If you don't have a coat and tie you're underdressed.


Maybe I am misunderstanding your post, but Broadway in NY is not that formal.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:31 am to
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A couple of years ago, I had a young co-worker try to push the soundtrack on me, it was absolutely horrible sounding.


It’s great.

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I've seen the Puerto Rican on television trying to promote this show in a effort to equate the life of a someone of Western European descent to the menagerie of mongrels who have now populated the United States.


Uh. Yikes.
Posted by DragginFly
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:46 am to
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You know Hamilton was likely a darker skinned dude, right? He was a Caribbean immigrant.


Considering his father was Scottish and his mother was the daughter of a French Huguenot he must have acquired a sun tan.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:46 am to
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Whose gone? Thoughts?


I'm quite late to the thread and quite drunk right now. Forgive my lateness, but I was fortunate enough to attend Hamilton twice in a 6-month period.

The first I heard of a Hamilton musical was a reference from a cousin in mid 2015. I blew it off, as I was not particularly interested in the subject matter. Fastforward three years. It's the period between Thanksgiving and Christmas and my wife (no pics, and you're probably welcome for that, as she's dumb and ugly enough to marry a guy like me) wants to visit NYC for a week. We catch two Broadway shows in this week. One is Hamilton. I see it without significant interest in the show. I see it again in New Orleans the late winter/spring circuit of 2019 with interest. My thoughts:

You need to listen to some or most (all is ok too) of the show before attending, or you're going to be too focused on learning lyrics as they rapsunged to appreciate them. I did not listen essentially any of it prior to the Broadway version featuring Jevon McPherson in Nov/Dec 2018. I left thinking that the non-original cast was as good or better than the original version who you'll find on Amazon (and most places). Lin Manuel Miranda is beyond talented as a lyricist and the score was great. I truly hated listening to his voice on the 'album' version compared to what I had seen live. The rest of the cast was pretty comparable. I have quite a bit of experience playing live music, and I tend to generally prefer live versions of songs and live covers to album versions, though I very much understand/appreciate the beauty that is a good studio/controlled album. I left the theater wanting to listen on repeat and could not really enjoy what was available because the Hamilton I saw was far better as a performer than its original writer could have intended- I intend no cheap shot at LMM as I find him to be a lyrical mastermind and a truly phenomenal songwriter/scorer. After several months of listening to quite a bit of the musical, my wife and I decided to get tickets to the New Orleans showing.


She was happy and loved the show. I have two pretty good friends that saw it and were essentially blown away with minor criticisms- namely a specific character (Washington) did not have the ability to rap nearly as well as the album version.
I, on the other hand, found the entire production to be lackluster in comparison. There isn't much scenery that is important or changing that made the difference. The New Orleans show specifically brought a Hamilton that was, on the day I saw it, off. Timing wasn't great. Rapping wasn't great. His voice was fine, but he seemed a half-step late frequently and just...missed.
I thought all the singing was as good or better than the original caste, but rapping is the majority of the show, and I thought that something seemed 'off' all day. Most the folks I spoke with were beyond impressed. I feel like I either saw an exceptional production in NYC on Broadway or got a bad performance the night I saw it in New Orleans.
This is the only show I've ever seen in multiple locations. My opinion probably is not worth much. But if you asked my opinion, I would say that the New Orleans production I saw lived up to the CD version (leaning towards underperforming) and the Broadway version blew it out of the water.
I hope to see a play twice to compare the Broadway/Off-Broadway caste again in the future, but my current opinion stands as:
Broadway was noticeably better than the New Orleans version of Broadway.
I hope I'm hypercritical the this is the only example I can give you of this. My friends that liked it tend to agree that it was mostly slightly worse than the CD but pretty great. I think I saw a great caste on Broadway and an OK caste in NOLA. But I left slightly disappointed. My wife did not.
But in all fairness, even I don't like me all that much.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:32 am to
I had forgotten about this thread. Coincidentally, I recently started listening to the soundtrack again
Posted by Dr Phibes
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:41 am to
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Considering his father was Scottish and his mother was the daughter of a French Huguenot he must have acquired a sun tan.

Don't interrupt revisionist history.
Posted by Albino Potato
Member since Jan 2016
875 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:46 am to
No joke I went with my girlfriend, no pics, thinking it was gonna be some liberal propaganda shite and it wasn’t. The only thing they kept saying that I could see maybe being that way is how Hamilton was an immigrant.
Also, it’s funny how so much of it is relevant in today’s politics. Hamilton was super ambitious, didn’t hold his tongue, passed people off for being boisterous, and had an affair. But he was a damn great founding father who got shite done....like my boy Trump.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:54 am to
Went to see it at the Orpheum in San Francisco last weekend. Very well done. Was very impressed.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20088 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:05 am to
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diversity of its cast.


People in this thread keep saying Diversity. I thought the cast was almost entirely black.

That’s not diverse. It’s just not white folk.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:35 am to
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You know Hamilton was likely a darker skinned dude, right? He was a Caribbean immigrant.


We all know the founding fathers had flowing blonde hair, ice blue eyes, and porcelain white skin. Just like our lord and savior Jesus Christ.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32623 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:55 am to
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People in this thread keep saying Diversity. I thought the cast was almost entirely black.

That’s not diverse. It’s just not white folk.


Can't speak to the current cast, but the original cast was probably about 50% black. Jones is half black/half white, Miranda and Ramos are both mixed Puerto Rican, Soo is half Chinese/half white, Groff is white.

ETA:

This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 10:06 am
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49659 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:05 am to
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My favorite part was the two guys next to me blowing each other.




Ahhh...the “cool guy” who has never been to the theater because it’s for the gays.

Those are normally the insecure “closet” gays.
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