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re: Kaiser Permanente possibly acquiring Ochsner system???

Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:16 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40874 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:16 pm to
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Ochsner just began a relationship with MD Anderson, I doubt Anderson would have partnered with Ochsner knowing that Kaiser was about to aquire Ochsner.


Does MD Anderson not like KP?
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
5383 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:17 pm to
Oschner took over one of the major systems in my small town. Due to their deep pockets (compared to the existing system), they kept a young, outstanding cardiologist that one year ago today literally saved my life when I had a massive heart attack.
I lived in CA in the late 70’s and KP ran that state. Folks who went to them swore by them , but they had their fingers in everything.
Posted by borrelia
Member since Mar 2009
2067 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:18 pm to
Not sure why KP would want to get into Louisiana. I’ve only had limited dealings with them but this just doesn’t seem like an attractive market for them (or anyone from a large healthcare perspective).
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40874 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:20 pm to
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lived in CA in the late 70’s and KP ran that state. Folks who went to them swore by them


Ochsner same way. People love ‘em or hate em, no middle ground
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40874 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:21 pm to
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Not sure why KP would want to get into Louisiana. I’ve only had limited dealings with them but this just doesn’t seem like an attractive market for them (or anyone from a large healthcare perspective).


Only one real competitor at this point. Maybe that’s attractive?
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39748 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:22 pm to
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Does MD Anderson not like KP?

KP is one stop shopping. I don't think they'd be too keen on farming out a cash cow, like Oncology, to MDA.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:22 pm to
Just when you thought Ochsner had hit rock bottom…
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131148 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:23 pm to
The only places hospitals make money are outpatient oncology, surgery, labwork and radiology

They arent giving one of those up
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13168 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:28 pm to
I hated KP with a passion when I was in the NE.

They pay terribly and all their doctors are foreign. Literally FOB. Probably shipped that way too.

In my opinion, KP wouldn't work down here. People like the illusion of choice even though most have little to no insurance or government pay.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9764 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:53 pm to
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Louisiana had a pretty horrible payer mix



Fixed
Posted by borrelia
Member since Mar 2009
2067 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:56 pm to
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In my opinion, KP wouldn't work down here. People like the illusion of choice even though most have little to no insurance or government pay.


I don’t think so either. Between that and the move towards contracts that have more risk sharing on the hospital side from the insurers Louisiana (and Mississippi) will become less attractive to healthcare providers due to the health of our population and may cause some to leave the state.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61049 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:00 pm to
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Kaiser
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I like their blades.
Their burger rolls aren’t too shabby either.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24757 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:54 pm to
Labwork on paper profit only, its been seen as an expense center now for quite a while.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5379 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:58 pm to
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Kaiser


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I like their blades.


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Their burger rolls aren’t too shabby either.



Can a brother put in a shout out for Kaiser Aluminum?

Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
7921 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:00 pm to
I had them when we lived in California and absolutely loved them.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28436 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:03 pm to
Kaiser would be an upgrade from Ochsner. Since Ochsner bought the General Health System all they’ve done is consolidate power and suck cash ou of the system. It’s falling behind.

The only issue would be the fact that Kaiser is vertically integrated, meaning that they own the insurance side also. It’s a closed system.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35290 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:07 pm to
Wilhelm was a bad dude
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37309 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:08 pm to
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Keep hearing rumblings from different cities and sectors.


What does this even mean?
Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
3040 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:14 pm to
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need a Trust Buster

rumor around is that future Gov. Landry would support a class-action antitrust lawsuit against Ochsner from the insurance companies.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:36 pm to
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Ochsner could really use a change in leadership. That place is being run into the ground.

Back when I had my liver transplant in 2017 and the years leading up to and following it they were top notch.

The last year or so dealing with cancer, I find they have fallen off.
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