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Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:21 am to whoa
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There’s pics of her in Reggie’s with her mom earlier in the semester. That’s not a good look.
It may not look good on the surface for her but it looks a lot worse Reggies and their insurer. It just shows that they routinely let and served underaged people in the bar regardless if their parents knew.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:23 am to patnuh
quote:No he doesn't. No one in this thread understands how lawsuits or indemnification clauses work. This is literally why insurance exists.
Yeah but the dude still has to pay for an attorney to deal with the legal crap.
First of all, you sue anyone who could be responsible in a comparative fault/contributory negligence state (which Louisiana is). As soon as those parties are found to not be responsible, they will be dismissed. This usually happens with minimal expenses involved. Second, the police report or police determination of fault has no bearings on the outcome of the civil suit. Fault is determined by the trier of fact, not a third party, non witness statement.
LYFT's insurer paying 5k in legal fees for their attorneys to write an exception of no cause of action for a wrongful death suit is not causing insurance rates to rise in Louisiana
Reggies and the driver of the vehicle both had (or are required by law to have) insurance. LYFT likely picks up the driver, unless he wasn't in the course and scope of his employment with LYFT, in which case his personal carrier would pick him up. He is not going to spend a penny. Plaintiff won't pursue an excess judgment on a LYFT driver. It just doesn't happen in Louisiana.
The only people that could potentially be expected to come out of pocket other than the rapists are the bartenders, but I'd imagine there's a clause in their contracts (if they had employment contracts with reggies) that forces reggies' insurer to pick them up. Now, if they knew or reasonably should have known she was underage and still served her, Reggies' insurer would 100% drop them and try and push fault onto them.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 11:29 am
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:24 am to whoa
quote:Not really... Reggies is 18 to enter and parents can buy their children alcohol in Louisiana.
There’s pics of her in Reggie’s with her mom earlier in the semester. That’s not a good look.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:57 am to PP7 for heisman
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and parents can buy their children alcohol in Louisiana.
I had no idea about this..
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:59 am to whoa
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There’s pics of her in Reggie’s with her mom earlier in the semester. That’s not a good look.
Drinking age is 18 in Louisiana if you’re with a legal guardian
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:18 pm to WhiteRussianDude
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Including Reggies insurance company who kept renewing their policies in spite of their decade long track record of serving alcohol to minors
If I was the attorney, I would include in the law suit:
- City of Baton Rouge
- Louisiana Office of Alcohol and Tobacco Control
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:21 pm to Alt26
quote:Well I’ll be goddamned if it ain’t the plaintiff atty/insurance (settlement) cabal at it again.
The plaintiff if trying to recover damages from the insurance policy/insurer that insured the Lyft driver. In order to do so he has to name the driver as a defendant (i.e. the insured). Will he be able to recover? Who knows? The jury will decide that. But I doubt the plaintiff or plaintiff's attorney is trying to recover personally from the driver.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:52 pm to LSBoosie
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The fact that he is suing a dozen employees from Reggie's really pisses me off. There are probably freshman college students who are at no fault at all that now have to deal with a lawsuit.
They signed up for a job that deals with distributing alcohol. (I'm assuming) they are told that people will try to present fakes, buy drinks for friends, etc. Legally, the bartenders are in a way responsible for making sure they serve to the right people, do not overserve, and maintaining a safe work environment as best as they can. They have the right to refuse service to anyone. There are bouncers/bodyguards to get people out as they see fit. Their age/grade does not excuse them from adult problems.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:57 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Drinking age is 18 in Louisiana if you’re with a legal guardian
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RS 14:93.10
4. UNLAWFUL SALE, PURCHASE, AND POSSESSION
OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
§93.10. Definition
For purposes of R.S. 14:93.10 through 93.14, the following definitions shall apply:
(1) "Alcoholic beverage" means beer, distilled spirits, and wine containing one-half of one percent or more of alcohol by volume. Beer includes but is not limited to ale, lager, porter, stout, sake, and other similar fermented beverages brewed or produced from malt wholly or in part or from any substitute therefor. Distilled spirits include alcohol, ethanol, or spirits or wine in any form, including all dilutions and mixtures thereof from whatever process produced.
(2) "Public possession" means the possession of any alcoholic beverage for any reason, including consumption, on any street, highway, or waterway or in any public place or any place open to the public, including a club which is de facto open to the public. "Public possession" does not include the following:
(a) The possession or consumption of any alcoholic beverage:
(i) For an established religious purpose.
(ii)When a person under twenty-one years of age is accompanied by a parent, spouse, or legal guardian twenty-one years of age or older.
(iii) For medical purposes when purchased as an over the counter medication, or when prescribed or administered by a licensed physician, pharmacist, dentist, nurse, hospital, or medical institution.
(iv) In a private residence, which shall include a residential dwelling and up to twenty contiguous acres, on which the dwelling is located, owned by the same person who owns the dwelling.
(b) The sale, handling, transport, or service in dispensing of any alcoholic beverage pursuant to lawful ownership of an establishment or to lawful employment of a person under twenty-one years of age by a duly licensed manufacturer, wholesaler, or retailer of beverage alcohol.
(3) "Purchase" means acquisition by the payment of money or other consideration. Purchase does not include such acquisition for medical purposes either when purchased as over the counter medication or when prescribed or administered by a licensed physician, pharmacist, dentist, nurse, hospital, or medical institution.
Acts 1995, No. 639, §1; Acts 1996, 1st Ex. Sess., No. 78, §1; Acts 2011, No. 264, §1; Acts 2015, No. 212, §1.
Doubling down:
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§93.13. Unlawful purchase of alcoholic beverages by persons on behalf of persons under twenty-one
A. It is unlawful for any person, other than a parent, spouse, or legal guardian, as specified in R.S. 14:93.10(2)(a)(ii), to purchase on behalf of a person under twenty-one years of age any alcoholic beverage.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:06 pm to momentoftruth87
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And even his daughter since she was part of it.
And sue himself since he didn't teach his daughter about the evils of alcohol. And how she is her own first line of defense from predators.
I hate seeing lawsuits like this. I understand the pain(and sometimes greed) behind them. But sometimes we need to be honest and live with the truth.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:09 pm to JDPndahizzy
Reggie's is gone
That's like suing the Easter Bunny
That's like suing the Easter Bunny
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:10 pm to doubleb
quote:I bet you Reggie's didn't even have 10 bartenders working that night. I would also bet you she used a fake ID to get into the bar. How is that bartender on the patio supposed to know that this girl who has a wristband on isn't 21? Not that I am against fake ID's, everyone uses them.
Bartenders who knowingly serve alcohol to minors are responsible for their actions. Don’t kid yourself.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:18 pm to LSBoosie
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How is that bartender on the patio supposed to know that this girl who has a wristband on isn't 21?
They all get marked a giant X with a sharpie on their hands for underage and generally place wristbands on a specific wrist for people 21+.
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Not that I am against fake ID's, everyone uses them.
Invest in tech that catches these better. It's out there. Reggie's being known for serving minors doesn't help the case for anyone working there AT ALL. People working there KNOW that this part of the reputation.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:24 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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They all get marked a giant X with a sharpie on their hands for underage and generally place wristbands on a specific wrist for people 21+.
I know how it works. If she used a fake ID , she would have a wristband on, not a X. Hell, even if she didn't use a fake ID she could have gotten a wristband from a friend and immediately went to the bathroom to wash off the stamp/marker. It happens all the time. That doesn't answer why some kid bartending on the patio should be sued for serving a girl with a wristband on.
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Invest in tech that catches these better. It's out there.
Very few places actually have good enough tech to catch all fake ID's. In fact, generally the most strict places are places that don't use scanners. Fred's for example.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:25 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Prove it beyond all reasonable doubt
I don't think the threshold for civil cases is "beyond all reasonable doubt".
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:28 pm to LSBoosie
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Very few places actually have good enough tech to catch all fake ID's. In fact, generally the most strict places are places that don't use scanners
kids in college towns are going to find a way to get into the bars and over drink, it’s very tragic what happened to her but she put herself in harms way, and probably with some effort, doesn’t make what happened to her right but it sounds like her dad is using this as a lottery ticket
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:29 pm to Obtuse1
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Instead of recovering your losses from a for-profit company that was being paid to cover those losses you chose to suck off the government teat. You made all the taxpayers in LA subsidize those insurance companies. How magnanimous of you.
If I sued everybody it would have still been the state paying for my medical bills dumbass.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:35 pm to boosiebadazz
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But we, the taxpayers, appreciate his noble footing of us with the bill.
the state basically took the place of the defunct insurance company and were paying the claims...are you so stupid that you think had i sued everyone the state still wasn't responsible for my medical bills? i didn't sue for injury...which would have been on the other insurance companies since the state wasn't paying for injury.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:36 pm to JDPndahizzy
Haven't read all 16 pages, but why are the rapists the only ones "alleged" to have done something wrong?
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including the Baton Rouge, Louisiana, bar who served the underage coed, the suspects who allegedly raped her and the Lyft driver who fatally struck her.
was allegedly raped in January after a night of drinking at Reggie's bar and later died after her alleged attackers let her out on a highway, where she was hit by a Lyft driver.
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