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re: Mandatory Birth Control Thoughts...
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:14 am to HottyToddy7
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:14 am to HottyToddy7
That's the problem though. You can't hold these people accountable or make them change behavior when big daddy government is ready to step in and take care of them for making bad choices.
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Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:16 am to Tyga Woods
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If you take a look the next time you're at Walmart, most adults have very little sense.
damn truth...
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:16 am to BluegrassBelle
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Like I said, you're requiring mandatory birth control for all women of that age. Not all women can take prescription birth control for a host of medical reasons. Then you have religious exceptions and given that about a quarter of the US population is Catholic you'd have a hard time pushing that as mandatory.
There are other forms of birth control. Depo provera, IUD, etc.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:20 am to NYNolaguy1
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There are other forms of birth control. Depo provera, IUD, etc.
They also have higher risks for blood clots. It has to do with the estrogen levels in the birth control It's not exclusive to the pill.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:22 am to Tyga Woods
It will never, ever happen but sadly something along these lines is the only way things could ever truly get better.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:23 am to BluegrassBelle
I'm guessing that the girls that fall into that category account for a very small percentage of the whole.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:23 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
quote:Well played sir.
But if some girl, let's call her Pandora, ends up getting pregnant anyway. What do you do to her as punishment? Force an abortion? Now you have really opened up Pandora's box.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:26 am to Tyga Woods
I think the decision to have children "out-of-wedlock" (to borrow an old fashioned term) is largely a business decision for some in the lower socioeconomic strata.
If I'm a 16 year-old girl in a depressed area I have seen others make this decision for my entire life. With gov't benefits they are guaranteed to have an albeit low but reasonable level of living as long as they have kids. They may look around and not see a way to continue their education, having received a crappy public school education, and no real job prospects and choose to get on the government teet as it's the rational thing to do...
So I think all of these out-of-wedlock births are benefiting the mother/not harming the father. Rather than mandatory birth control you have to change the system where it isn't beneficial to the mom to have those kids and/or punishes the father for not supporting them. I know how crappy gov't bureaucracies are, but imagine if every baby born had to have the father listed and he was perpetually held responsible for that kid; dudes would be less likely to spray guts.
Not to mention pop-culture which also celebrates booze/drugs and rampant sex that leads to this as well.
Damn, I'm 44 and sound like my Grandfather bemoaning Elvis...
If I'm a 16 year-old girl in a depressed area I have seen others make this decision for my entire life. With gov't benefits they are guaranteed to have an albeit low but reasonable level of living as long as they have kids. They may look around and not see a way to continue their education, having received a crappy public school education, and no real job prospects and choose to get on the government teet as it's the rational thing to do...
So I think all of these out-of-wedlock births are benefiting the mother/not harming the father. Rather than mandatory birth control you have to change the system where it isn't beneficial to the mom to have those kids and/or punishes the father for not supporting them. I know how crappy gov't bureaucracies are, but imagine if every baby born had to have the father listed and he was perpetually held responsible for that kid; dudes would be less likely to spray guts.
Not to mention pop-culture which also celebrates booze/drugs and rampant sex that leads to this as well.
Damn, I'm 44 and sound like my Grandfather bemoaning Elvis...
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:37 am to Tyga Woods
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mandatory 2 yr military service from age 17-19
WTF?
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:41 am to GAAtty70
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If you are gonna reminisce, try something you know about like that time last week when your testicles finally dropped.
Bro, at least I can bust a nut still.
Don't come in here talking shite about genitals when you're old as frick.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:43 am to Tyga Woods
Most young women want to get their hands on birth control. They are required to have parent's approval and a pelvic exam for the prescription. Catholic doctors/pharmacists will not prescribe it. If you grew up in BFE like me, you only have two or three pharmacists in town.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:45 am to HottyToddy7
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why not educate them on safe sex and hold them accountable and make them raise the child when they don't.
This is what is currently in place. OP is stating, very factually in my opinion, that this isn't working.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:47 am to The Mick
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Well played sir.
I think you were the only one to catch that.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 12:11 pm to Tyga Woods
Morally, ethically, and legally wrong.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 12:46 pm to BluegrassBelle
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They also have higher risks for blood clots. It has to do with the estrogen levels in the birth control It's not exclusive to the pill.
What are you talking about? There is no estrogen component to IUD's like Mirena, nor any estrogen in Depo Provera (the shot). In fact, the Paragard IUD is completely hormone free.
So many ways to prevent pregnancy.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 12:57 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
quote:When you have an IQ like ours, it's as much a burden as it is a blessing.
I think you were the only one to catch that.
This post was edited on 12/22/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 12/22/16 at 1:04 pm to Tyga Woods
Would it help? Tremendously.
Should it be mandated? No fricking way.
Should non-abstinence based sexual education be mandated and taught in every state? Without a fricking doubt.
Should it be mandated? No fricking way.
Should non-abstinence based sexual education be mandated and taught in every state? Without a fricking doubt.
This post was edited on 12/22/16 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 12/22/16 at 1:07 pm to LucasP
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Seems like it would encourage teenagers to do sex. We don't want a country where teenagers sex.
States with abstinence only programs have higher rates of teenage sex and pregnancy.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 1:10 pm to whodidthat
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States with abstinence only programs have higher rates of teenage sex and pregnancy.
But at least they're not having sex, that's the important part.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 1:15 pm to Tyga Woods
Stop the fight against planned parenthood. Fully fund abortions, fully fund birth control, and reform the welfare system.
The rate of reproduction of leaches in this country is a problem. It needs government intervention, and that intervention needs to steamroll religious objections.
The rate of reproduction of leaches in this country is a problem. It needs government intervention, and that intervention needs to steamroll religious objections.
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