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Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9162 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:29 pm to
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merv capable, that could spiral the numbers by a significant factor. 500 becomes 3000 if not intercepted before merv detachments.



And how many of those Mirvs are dummies meant to waste our interceptors. We may be able to stop a handful if say N Korea lobbed a few our way...but an all out attack by China or Russia.....we are for the most part toast.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23939 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:29 pm to
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I imagine there is some form of intercontinental missles detection


US has had ICBM early warning sine the early 60’s. The shortest route for Russian ICBM’s is across the North Pole. Canada was a big part of the early systems. The older system was replaced in 2001 with a solid state phase array radar system. We also use satellites as well.

US can detect a launch before the Russian misses leave their silos. Shooting them down is another story.
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 4:32 pm
Posted by texn
Pronouns: Y'All/Y'All's
Member since Nov 2019
4076 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:33 pm to
Yes, it's been around since the 1980s
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44999 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:39 pm to
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Since Israel's """Iron Dome""" is basically a US Patriot missile defense system, it's a fair guess we have something similar


Incorrect. While Israel does utilize Patriot batteries in their integrated BMD system (along with their own Arrow missiles which are similar to the Patriot), Irone Dome is separate system using a different, and much smaller missile for interception.

Source: The IDF base I was on where I got to see Iron Dome up close.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7152 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:40 pm to
We struggled with China balloons.
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
10454 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:46 pm to
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The US has 5x the amount of military capability than we actually advertise. I’m sure our technology is better than Israel’s at this point, even if Israel’s is world class


100%.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
77105 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:51 pm to
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Since Israel's """Iron Dome""" is basically a US Patriot missile defense system, it's a fair guess we have something similar


Besides different missiles, different technology, and different applications the two systems are the same.

Part of the beauty of the Iron Dome system is the smaller cheaper operations.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:51 pm to
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I imagine there is some form of intercontinental missles detection and intercept system.
We can detect them by the time they leave the ground.

We do not, however, have any way to intercept them, and that's assuming there's only 1 warhead per missile (which there is not).
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4898 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:53 pm to
lol Raytheon (American company) delivered the iron dome to Israel bro.
Posted by Union Jefferson
Member since Sep 2024
65 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:55 pm to
Don't worry Joe and Kamala got us
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58689 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:56 pm to
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Probably a dumb question, but does the US have a missile defense system comparable to Israel’s set up to intercept anything lobbed our way?

No

We gave ours to Israel
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16023 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:02 pm to
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ChiComs launched 500 nukes at the continental US, how many would we intercept?


Intercepting multiple warheads is essentially impossible. If a large missile strike was launched we would maybe get a handful.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12090 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:23 pm to
It's called mutually assured destruction
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15025 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:38 pm to
I remember the one Prz Reagan had thought up that bluffed the Ruskies.

Naturally, scum bag left made fun of him. Had it been Klinton in office they would’ve celebrated the idea.

Probably could be done today.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136634 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:43 pm to
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Incorrect. While Israel does utilize Patriot batteries in their integrated BMD system (along with their own Arrow missiles which are similar to the Patriot), Irone Dome is separate system using a different, and much smaller missile for interception.
Goodness!
Let's try this a different way.

15yrs before the "Iron Dome" was deployed, the US defended Israel against Saddam with the Patriot missile system. Israelis were impressed and grateful.

But the patriots were expensive and designed as intermediate/long range deterrents. So Israel spent the next decade and a half designing a cheaper patriot system for use against shorter range missile systems like those used in the ME.

Our systems are 15-20 yrs more advanced than Israel's.

This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 5:45 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35285 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:54 pm to
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Yeah, that's what I seem to notice about U.S. military capability...whatever they are letting the public know about it's usually ten year old technology.


Yeah, I just don't buy it. I believe there are lots of things being researched thay no one knows about, but everything we have that is actually deployable is in the public sphere.

This is like LSU Football's "secret playbook" that we just hold back... all season. It doesn't exist.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:55 pm to
Yeah it protects about .05 % of the population
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27966 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:58 pm to
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does the US have a missile defense system comparable to Israel’s set up to intercept anything lobbed our way?

Probably not. The US is huge and would be very difficult to defend in that way.
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3802 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:01 pm to
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does the US have a missile defense system comparable to Israel’s


Where do you think they came from?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
14283 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:01 pm to
Iron dome was Rafael and IAI. There are plenty of joint ventures between IAI and US manufacturers. Davids sling, Arrow, etc all have varying degrees of inter country partnerships.
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