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re: Mississippi River bridge project hit with another delay
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:53 pm to winkchance
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:53 pm to winkchance
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National Environmental Policy Act
Everyone bitching about how long it takes to build a bridge - it is your federal government and liberal policies that won't go away - because tree frogs, or spotted owls or trees.
Since the 70s every delayed project has been because of this and the Corps of Engineers. Period Full Stop
Trump can declare a national security/economic emergency and bypass all of this bullshite
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:42 pm to ChestRockwell
“Being from NOLA” doesn’t mean you know LA history. Because if you think the corruption began with Huey, you are very uninformed.
The French and Spanish colonial governors were well known as crooks, the governors since the state was admitted to the Union in 1812 were well known as crooks.
The honest, or reform governors all thru LA History are very few and far between.
The French and Spanish colonial governors were well known as crooks, the governors since the state was admitted to the Union in 1812 were well known as crooks.
The honest, or reform governors all thru LA History are very few and far between.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:26 am to cypresstiger
Thanks you pretentious jerk off.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:33 am to Shaun176
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I don't understand why they don't just build a interstate that goes over the sunshine bridge and bypasses BR Gross Tete to Sorrento. Probably 20% the cost of building a bridge. They can even run it up to 12 and tie in around Satsuma.
Well shite, lookin' like we need about 5 milli' for a study, cher.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:38 am to ragincajun03
Building a bypass south of BR is just dumb, similar to building much of anything south of I-10 is dumb.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:39 am to ragincajun03
America has allowed too much regulatory processes to interfere with progress. That’s why we can’t get anything done anymore. If we don’t fix that it will be our undoing.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:18 am to justjoe906
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Anyone over 40 will never see the new bridge in their remaining life.
Hell, in 1981 we voted on a tax that included 4 laning Hooper road from Blackwater to Sullivan. Every year since we've been told it's still on the books to be completed. It's still not done. I used that road for 46 years to go to work. Retired now and DGAF. I do want my tax money back...
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:24 am to lostinbr
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But if so it’ll be the same reason it’s always been - because the state can’t find the funding.
Every other state solves this issue with TOLLS
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:27 am to LSUFanHouston
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Every other state solves this issue with TOLLS
That would be viewed as a tax by the voters of Louisiana, though you’re not REQUIRED to pay it if you merely just go around. Sit in traffic or fly on through.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:27 am to YouKnowImRight
using the old bridge to make a north loop that connect I-10 on the west side of the river to 1-12 somewhere around Denham/Walker is what needs to be done. I assume that most of the travel through traffic heading east goes on 1-12, not 1-10.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:34 am to winkchance
quote:
National Environmental Policy Act Everyone bitching about how long it takes to build a bridge - it is your federal government and liberal policies that won't go away - because tree frogs, or spotted owls or trees. Since the 70s every delayed project has been because of this and the Corps of Engineers. Period Full Stop.
This project hasn’t even gotten to NEPA yet
That’s going to add time… but… these current delays right now are completely on the locals / state
Projects in other states have to deal with NEPA as well
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:45 am to winkchance
quote:
National Environmental Policy Act
Everyone bitching about how long it takes to build a bridge - it is your federal government and liberal policies that won't go away - because tree frogs, or spotted owls or trees.
Since the 70s every delayed project has been because of this and the Corps of Engineers. Period Full Stop.
There is no federal, liberal boogieman affecting this project, its lack of money and local/state politics. Haven't even got to NEPA yet.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:47 am to Vise
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You may be right, but there is a ton of traffic that comes out of the plants on La1/ River road area. And it all bottle necks at inter coastal canal and trying to merge onto the bridge.
Even if the inter coastal isn't that bad, getting on I10 from the I10/I110 split will. You have all of the people who get in the right lane to get ahead of traffic but then they have to merge which then leads to the right lane backing up. And that causing traffic in the middle lane on the bridge to back up, which then makes more people get into the right lane to get ahead of traffic.
I don't know who designed that shite.. And maybe they never imagined there would be the traffic there is today, but its a cluster.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:48 am to ragincajun03
Does anyone through the FOI have a total cost of all these studies to date, to whom they were paid, and their connection to every single legislator in Louisiana?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:49 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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It’s been 9 years since they started the Peceu entranc/exit ramp on I10 and they’re not close to finishing that project.
It’ll take them 20-30 years to finish this bridge.
Its funding dummy. It hasn't taken 9 years to build, it took 3 phases because of funding. This last phase involved the majority of the work and contractor is right on schedule for a March 2026 completion. 900 days, 6 bridges and a full blown interchange is solid timing. Everyone's an engineer.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 9:48 am to LSUFanHouston
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Every other state solves this issue with TOLLS
That’s their plan for the new Mississippi River bridge as well. But from what I understand it’s still going to take considerable direct funding as I don’t think the toll models were able to cover the full cost of the bridge. That’s just what I recall from reading the modeling report they published a year or two ago.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 9:58 am to Shaun176
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I don't understand why they don't just build a interstate that goes over the sunshine bridge and bypasses BR Gross Tete to Sorrento. Probably 20% the cost of building a bridge. They can even run it up to 12 and tie in around Satsuma.
They would never send an interstate across the Sunshine Bridge today. It’s over 60 years old and not constructed to modern interstate standards. That wouldn’t have stopped them several decades ago, but they won’t do it today. Plus, there would be an insane amount of wetlands commotion to contend with. Much more than the 2-3 families worried about a cypress swamp for the proposed bridge.
ETA you’d have a better shot getting a northern bypass built up across the Audubon Bridge. The bridge would meet modern standards and construction would impact far fewer wetlands. And the majority of traffic goes onto and comes off of 12. A southern bypass wouldn’t help with that unless it swung up from Sorrento to meet 12.
Ultimately, both bridges are too far from the main route to make viable crossings for a north or south bypass.
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:11 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
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At this point I bet this bridge would be built 5+ years after they would have to tear down or do a massive renovation of the old bridge (the 190/Huey P. Long Bridge). Hell, maybe even the new bridge (I10) too.
The old bridge in BR will long outlast the I-10 Bridge. Thank the train. Train bridges are built insanely strong.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:13 am to Dingeaux
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using the old bridge to make a north loop that connect I-10 on the west side of the river to 1-12 somewhere around Denham/Walker is what needs to be done. I assume that most of the travel through traffic heading east goes on 1-12, not 1-10.
AECOM tried to do this a decade ago with the BR loop proposal:
AECOM would have funded most of the cost via tolls but eventually the state determined it would have still required something like $400 million in taxpayer funding. The state then rejected it without evaluating any further because, as the House Transportation Committee Chair put it at the time… “At the end of the day, we don't have any extra money for any of these wonderful projects.”
FWIW, the 2016 I-10 corridor study found that both the AECOM proposal and the Westside Expressway (a south bypass via Sunshine bridge) combined (almost a full loop) would reduce traffic on the I-10 bridge by about 10% while a new bridge south of I-10 would reduce traffic by about 13%.
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