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Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:48 am to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134155 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:48 am to
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Bystander cellphone videos are largely credited with revealing police misconduct — such as with the 2020 killing of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis officers — and reshaping the conversation around police transparency.



I mean, the dude was already overdosing from the fent he swallowed. He "ate too many drugs".

One could argue the mini-mob standing there harassing the cops could have prevented then getting up and giving him Narcan.

Without that little mini-mob, the worthless POS might have survived to do more crimes, but then the progs wouldn't have had their battle cry to burn and loot.

Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
7747 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:49 am to
Jokes on them. I avoid cops at all cost.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40117 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:50 am to
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Section 1. R.S. 14:109 is hereby enacted to read as follows:
§109. Approaching a peace officer lawfully engaged in law enforcement duties
A. No person shall knowingly or intentionally approach within twenty-five
feet of a peace officer who is lawfully engaged in the execution of his official duties
after the peace officer has ordered the person to stop approaching or to retreat.
B. For the purposes of this Section, "peace officer" shall include allindividuals as defined in R.S. 14:112.4(B)(2) and R.S. 40:2402(3).
C. It shall be an affirmative defense to this crime if the defendant can
establish that the lawful order or command was neither received nor understood bythe defendant nor capable of being received or understood under the conditions and circumstances that existed at the time of the issuance of the order


even worse when you read

how the hell are you supposed to film a cop in the french quarter?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:50 am to
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not when they can just arrest anyone they believe has violated their force field


They'll be tied up doing little but that, and not dealing with actual crime. Thats the point.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19660 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:52 am to
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Care to make an actual argument?

Sure. Officer is wrestling a suspect into custody. Person #2 comes running up with his cell phone out, but officers can't do anything about it because the person is "filming". Come to find out, cell phone boy is the suspects brother and now has the officer in a rear naked choke.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:52 am to
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Cop sees you looking thru your apartment window at something going on in the parking lot 10 feet away, are you in violation?


Police have already done all of this in vehicles, regarding traffic stops all to search your vehicle and/or get you in the system.

Sounds like they are trying to expand their proactive policing to the sidewalks.
Posted by Bones McCoy
Member since May 2024
152 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:53 am to
Their cowardice increases on a daily basis.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14592 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:53 am to
I’m 100 percent behind filming cops and they should be severely and potentially criminally prosecuted if they obstructions rights to film but…

25 ft is reasonable in my opinion to record. The issue and why I’m against the law is that it will be abused and arbitrarily enforced
Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
2344 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:56 am to
Louisiana voters wanted a one party ruled state and now they have it. Now you have a governor who wants to clamp down on anything that can hurt his administration. You have a subservient legislature that will pass anything he wants, you asked for it and now you have it.
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1014 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:57 am to
quote:


I’m 100 percent behind filming cops and they should be severely and potentially criminally prosecuted if they obstructions rights to film but…

25 ft is reasonable in my opinion to record. The issue and why I’m against the law is that it will be abused and arbitrarily enforced

Now do 25ft in a person's home. How it that going to work out?
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2771 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:01 am to
Unfortunately, Florida passed a similar law with the 25' rule...

I can see the so-called "auditors" having fun with this....
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
47698 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:04 am to
elections have consequences?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34997 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Louisiana voters wanted a one party ruled state and now they have it. Now you have a governor who wants to clamp down on anything that can hurt his administration. You have a subservient legislature that will pass anything he wants, you asked for it and now you have it.


One party rule is not the problem. States like Texas and Florida have one party rule and are doing just fine.

The problem is Louisiana's bozo cajun governor whose only focus is superficial conservative "red meat" social issues with ZERO desire to improve one of if not the worst economies in the nation.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
4147 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:09 am to
quote:

how the hell are you supposed to film a cop in the french quarter?

quote:

if the defendant can
establish that the lawful order or command was neither received nor understood bythe defendant nor capable of being received or understood under the conditions and circumstances that existed at the time of the issuance of the order
There's your answer. Your honor, I was in quarter. Couldn't hear a thing. Law is still BS.
Posted by Trapped in time
Member since Mar 2023
560 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:09 am to
At first I thought law is not necessary, but then I watched the liberty lagoon footage. Cops were arresting someone and several people got right up on them and were at minimum verbally abusing officers. Being right up on the cops I think unecessarily escalated the situation. Yeah stand 25 feet back and film or curse the cops isn’t unreasonable. You probably gonna get tased otherwise.

Step towards non escalation of an already tense situation
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14592 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:11 am to
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Now do 25ft in a person's home. How it that going to work out?


You realize I said I was against the law bc it will be abused ? Learn comprehension, it’s a useful tool
Posted by phil good
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1691 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:11 am to
About to be loads of these arrest.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4665 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:12 am to
This administration and the sycophantic legislature sure do seem to enjoy taking a piss on the Constitution.

quote:

In 2022, lawmakers in Arizona passed a law that would have made it illegal to knowingly film police officers 8 feet (2.5 meters) or closer if the officer tells the person to stop. A coalition of media groups and the American Civil Liberties Union successfully sued to block Arizona's law, with a federal judge ruling it unconstitutional, citing infringement against a clearly established right to film police doing their jobs.

In similar cases, half of the U.S. appeals courts across the nation have ruled on the side of allowing people to record police without restriction.


So this is likely a complete waste of time and resources just so Landry can say he's tough on crime without actually doing anything substantive.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4908 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:14 am to
I despise the videoing of everything these days. Too bad it all isn’t illegal. Certain folks whip out their phones for everything. None of it should be admissible.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22650 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:16 am to
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Sure. Officer is wrestling a suspect into custody. Person #2 comes running up with his cell phone out, but officers can't do anything about it because the person is "filming". Come to find out, cell phone boy is the suspects brother and now has the officer in a rear naked choke.


Choking an officer is already illegal. How does this bullshite law prevent that?
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