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I've done something similar when they were billing for "long distance charges".
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:05 am to LSUFanHouston
Just a few short years ago they got a $7 million PPP loan: LINK
Just goes to show you that the rich get just as much welfare as the poor.
Just goes to show you that the rich get just as much welfare as the poor.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:07 am to Mung
All the lawyers in here talking prestige is making me 
Maybe amongst your peers, nobody else GAF.
Maybe amongst your peers, nobody else GAF.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:07 am to UptownJoeBrown
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Huge problem is that there are too many lawyers.
I heard this 40 years ago. And my response was then, as it is now, "there are never enough good ones."
It is not an easy life. You have got to bust your arse to make it. If you do, you will still lose sleep even after four decades worrying about cases and clients. You have to get a little lucky sometimes either in getting the wins or avoiding the losses.
It is NOT for everyone. Hell, I would not even recommend it for most people. Some really smart people are not good lawyers. Some dumbasses are. It's a weird profession.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:18 am to RanchoLaPuerto
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Some really smart people are not good lawyers. Some dumbasses are.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:18 am to LSUFanHouston
I have heard some of the dynamics that led to the breakup. Not sure if 100% accurate, but I think it's mostly true.
The northern and east coast offices operate in a different environment. They can charge higher rates that New Orleans and Baton Rouge. The banking and financial lawyers are all up there, and they are generating tons of business. Those lawyers evidently decided that they could do a lot better if they broke away from New Orleans and some of the other underperforming offices. Funny that the founding office of the firm is considered the anvil, but it is.
The offices that forced this will most likely roll themselves into big established law firms, or hang out their own shingle.
The northern and east coast offices operate in a different environment. They can charge higher rates that New Orleans and Baton Rouge. The banking and financial lawyers are all up there, and they are generating tons of business. Those lawyers evidently decided that they could do a lot better if they broke away from New Orleans and some of the other underperforming offices. Funny that the founding office of the firm is considered the anvil, but it is.
The offices that forced this will most likely roll themselves into big established law firms, or hang out their own shingle.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:18 am to RanchoLaPuerto
decades ago a law clerk was working on a file at the firm in question, a huge file, a file that had been opened and active for seven years. the clerk looked to the beginning of the file and asked his supervisor if the claim they had been defending had actually prescribed. turns out clerk was right and everyone else who had touched that file including senior partner was fired.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:22 am to zeebo
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decades ago a law clerk was working on a file at the firm in question, a huge file, a file that had been opened and active for seven years. the clerk looked to the beginning of the file and asked his supervisor if the claim they had been defending had actually prescribed. turns out clerk was right and everyone else who had touched that file including senior partner was fired.
There is an old joke about a lawyer from Opelousas named Duhon, who puts his son through law school. The son passes the bar and comes home to practice with his father. "Dad," he says, " you take a week off while I mind the office." Dad does.
When he returns he asks about what the son has been doing. "Dad, you won't believe it. I was able to completely close that Thistlewaite suceesion that has been open for 20 years!"
"You idiot," replies the Dad, "what do you think paid your law school tuition!"
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:23 am to RanchoLaPuerto
quote:This basically sums up the practice of law.
Some really smart people are not good lawyers. Some dumbasses are. It's a weird profession.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:24 am to FearTheFish
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This basically sums up the practice of law.
No comment on which one I am!
Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:05 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
Obligatory:
A man calls the law offices of Boudreaux, Boudreaux, Boudreaux, and Boudreaux.
He says, "I'd like to speak to Mr. Boudreaux."
The person on the other end says, "I'm sorry, Mr. Boudreaux is out of the office today playing golf."
The caller replies, "OK, let me speak to Mr. Boudreaux."
This time the reply is, "I'm sorry, Mr. Boudreaux is out of town on business."
Getting exasperated, the caller sighs and says, "Fine, let me speak to Mr. Boudreaux."
"I'm sorry, Mr. Boudreaux is no longer practicing law. He retired last week."
Frustrated, he asks if there is anyone there with whom he can discuss his legal issue.
The voice on the other end replies, "Oh, sure. Dis is Boudreaux!"
A man calls the law offices of Boudreaux, Boudreaux, Boudreaux, and Boudreaux.
He says, "I'd like to speak to Mr. Boudreaux."
The person on the other end says, "I'm sorry, Mr. Boudreaux is out of the office today playing golf."
The caller replies, "OK, let me speak to Mr. Boudreaux."
This time the reply is, "I'm sorry, Mr. Boudreaux is out of town on business."
Getting exasperated, the caller sighs and says, "Fine, let me speak to Mr. Boudreaux."
"I'm sorry, Mr. Boudreaux is no longer practicing law. He retired last week."
Frustrated, he asks if there is anyone there with whom he can discuss his legal issue.
The voice on the other end replies, "Oh, sure. Dis is Boudreaux!"
Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:51 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
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AI will be overused for a time until someone drops a multi-million or billion dollar ball with it. The lawyers left standing will clean up then.
I just realized something.
All the AI in the world cannot control a judge or jury.
A judge and a jury always have their flaws.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:55 pm to Tarps99
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All the AI in the world cannot control a judge or jury.
The thinking is that we will eventually have AI judges. As for juries, that would require a constitutional amendment, so not likely.
But remember that only a relatively small number of lawyers actually try cases to juries. Very few BigLaw lawyers do litigation. That is one reason they are moving so hard to get aehadof AI.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:56 pm to Tarps99
Human-facing law can't be replaced by AI. The problem is fewer and fewer cases go to trial these days, even in jury trial-loving Texas. It's even more miniscule if you're only talking civil.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:58 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
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The thinking is that we will eventually have AI judges. As for juries, that would require a constitutional amendment, so not likely.
That's why my prediction included arbitrations as part of the hypothesized future transactional law systems.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:04 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
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But remember that only a relatively small number of lawyers actually try cases to juries.
If AI judges actually become a thing (I don’t think they will), you’re always afforded a jury trial. It won’t be all that hard to predict the outcomes of AI “trials” so if you think you’re going to lose just bring the human element back in
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:11 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
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The thinking is that we will eventually have AI judges. As for juries, that would require a constitutional amendment, so not likely.
But remember that only a relatively small number of lawyers actually try cases to juries. Very few BigLaw lawyers do litigation. That is one reason they are moving so hard to get aehadof AI.
Yes...If you reviewed billings for complex commercial litigation, I would doubt mroe than five percent of the total was for courtroom work.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:14 pm to urinetrouble
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Hard to imagine there was still not significant value left to maintain a firm that with that many offices and employees that services many different industries, at least according their website. Like others have said, they have been making a bunch of moves indicative of a firm that was still growing, not about to fall apart.
The daughter left with 3-4 other people. Maybe she had an outsized book but still that should not be that impactful of a move.
What were the other 156 people working on?
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:15 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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so if you think you’re going to lose just bring the human element back in
If you're already contractually bound to arbitration, that ship has sailed.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:29 pm to Slippy
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I have heard some of the dynamics that led to the breakup. Not sure if 100% accurate, but I think it's mostly true. The northern and east coast offices operate in a different environment. They can charge higher rates that New Orleans and Baton Rouge. The banking and financial lawyers are all up there, and they are generating tons of business. Those lawyers evidently decided that they could do a lot better if they broke away from New Orleans and some of the other underperforming offices. Funny that the founding office of the firm is considered the anvil, but it is. The offices that forced this will most likely roll themselves into big established law firms, or hang out their own shingle.
Being a CPA, with our profession going through a lot of consolidation, I’ve wondered about this.
Some larger firms have bought into LA the last several years. I can’t imagine their new LA outposts can charge the same rates / level of work that offices in NE / west coast can charge.
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