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re: River Pilots in Louisiana for dummies
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:10 am to AFistfulof$
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:10 am to AFistfulof$
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The buy in is called “hog money”. It’s whatever the target salary for the association is at the time
So it’s the mob. You gave to take care of the made members before you can be accepted
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Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:17 am to SwampAssassin
Being “on-call” for a net $375k/yr to pilot a ship X number of miles through the crescent city gauntlet until a normal pilot can take over?
How long are you *ACTUALLY* piloting the ship? A few hours here and there?
I’d take that job in a heartbeat... sure the standards and requirements are rigorous, but it’s also a “good ol’ boy network” that you can’t just “apply for”...
At the end of the day, it’d be an easy enough job and the pay FAR outweighs the hassles.
How long are you *ACTUALLY* piloting the ship? A few hours here and there?
I’d take that job in a heartbeat... sure the standards and requirements are rigorous, but it’s also a “good ol’ boy network” that you can’t just “apply for”...
At the end of the day, it’d be an easy enough job and the pay FAR outweighs the hassles.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:35 am to tgrbaitn08
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How many people can say they can run a 500’ loaded ship up and down the Mississippi River without hitting a refinery in their sleep?
Likely many more if these jobs were actually opened to the full labor market, you dimwitted trash bag
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:44 am to tgrbaitn08
Piloting a tow boat with a huge string of barges up and down the river is a lot harder than bringing a ship to a dock.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:01 am to SwampAssassin
Sounds like a tough job with a lot of responsibility. They still don’t merit that much salary.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:21 am to SwampAssassin
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Yes. But they do a lot of the state of Louisiana and they keep our economy alive and our ecosystems safe.
Allowing them to hold the state hostage for raises like this current one correct?
Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:42 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Not defending the corrupt fricks, but SW Pass is the least of the problems on the River in terms of navigation. English Turn is rough, but Algiers Point is downright treacherous on a good day.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 10:11 am to MetrySaint24
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If you actually speak to a River Boat pilot in person and know them they will laugh about how much they get paid. They know it's completely outrageous.
Yup.
One of the pilots I know is in his early 30s, has a wife who doesn't work, 3 kids under 6, and they live on State Street uptown in a $1M+ home, and both he and his wife drive $75k+ vehicles, and when they vacation, it ain't to Gulf Shores.
But yeah, pilots are "hurting" and need more money. It's bullshite. He admitted to me the last time they got a raise (18 most ago?) that it was pretty much just a money grab by the guild.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 11:13 am to Brazos
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At about 21 years of age they went off to sea for about a year to rack up the sea time and came back to take the USCG test which isn’t that hard. Th
Why don’t you got to the US Coast Guard web site and review the requirements to obtain a “Masters License for unlimited tonnage” which is required to be a river pilot, and you will see how ridiculous what you posted is.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 11:31 am to EA6B
I went to High School with several River Pilots, etc. For some of them deductive reasoning on a basic level was a stretch.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 11:38 am to AbitaFan08
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What’s the river pilot equivalent of “Karen”? Because that’s you.
Let's start calling em Sam for Samuel Clemens.
"Oh look another Sam is educating us again on the trials and tribulations of Ye Ole River Pilot."
Posted on 8/1/20 at 11:43 am to Hickok
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Who would waste their lives just to make between $75million-$130million with such a dangerous process of driving a boat.
Hahaha.
That's $75,000 - $130,000.
$75mm is $75,000,000.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:13 am to EA6B
I know what it takes. I have a 200 ton masters right now and I’m currently working on a 1600 ton. Yes it requires a lot of studying but the schools prepare you for the test to make it a lot easier. I wasn’t implying that it’s simple but it’s not rocket science. I know some dumb mother frickers with unlimited licenses but they went to school and studied.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 11:18 am
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:18 am to SwampAssassin
i guarantee you dont need an IQ over 100 to drive a river boat up and down a 70 mile stretch of river, most people could do it, no reason to pay them close to a mill year when they are already the most overpaid profession in the state
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:31 am to Sayre
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Piloting a tow boat with a huge string of barges up and down the river is a lot harder than bringing a ship to a dock.
Agree
And these pilots make $200,000 on the high end. This means that the River pilots who are paid -$600,000 are overpaid by 400,000 on average. The difference in the responsibility is dramatic too. The River pilots have not liability if something happens. They don’t actually take the wheel of these ships after all/. They stand or sit in the wheelhouse and give instruction.
Tug captains are at the wheel, night and day for hours at a time during good and bad weather. They have to manage the crew too.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:01 am to SlidellCajun
Riverboat pilots make more than most athletes playing major professional sports (league min in most leagues is ~500k)
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:45 am to hubertcumberdale
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Riverboat pilots make more than most athletes playing major professional sports
No they don't. Google median NBA/NFL/MLB salary.
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:54 am to SwampAssassin
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Now about how much they make. Yes, they get paid about 650,000 as I said before but they are considered independent contractors and thus have to pay about half of that back in taxes.
nah brah...they'll run that through an s corp. Pay themselves some salary and pay much less than half of that in taxes
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:03 pm to tigercross
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No they don't. Google median NBA/NFL/MLB salar
NFL is $860k...not far off
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