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re: Veterans Claiming 100% Disability
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:10 am to Vacherie
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:10 am to Vacherie
My dad finally went to the VA for hearing aids after people kept urging him to. He was denied assistance for his hearing loss, even though he fired a howitzer during Vietnam. While he was there, someone told him he’d likely be denied multiple times, but if he kept coming back and filing claims, he’d eventually get what he needed. He told them he didn’t have time for that, he has a job and responsibilities. That’s when it hit me: the system often rewards persistence over need, and the ones who play the game get ahead. Meanwhile, proud, hard-working veterans with real but less severe issues get left behind because they refuse to beg for help.
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:27 am to Vacherie
I’m in private practice and used to see a few vets a week that would only want me to document “how bad” their condition was but never actually to receive treatment. All of this was to increase their service connected disability. One vet wanted me to write a letter connecting his back issue (which was service connected) to his hip arthritis (which wasn’t), and he wouldn’t take no for an answer. After that, I made it clear I see no VA referrals unless they get triaged by one of my PAs first.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:30 am to VictoryHill
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This country has given hundreds of billions of dollars to countries around the world who hate our guts, I will never frown upon a Veteran getting theirs. ~$182 billion in total aid to Ukraine? ~$50 billion in straight financial aid? And you're worried about Veterans "gumming up the system?"
Yes.
And you're just justifying a lack of integrity.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:38 am to Vacherie
I know a guy who was shot in the neck in Iraq and is quadriplegic. He has a pilot license and holds an FAA medical. Owns a plane and flies the shite out of it.
Yeah… some dudes are milking it but I’ll reserve judgement because I don’t know their story.
Yeah… some dudes are milking it but I’ll reserve judgement because I don’t know their story.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 9:57 am to jcaz
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and is quadriplegic. He has a pilot license and holds an FAA medical. Owns a plane and flies the shite out of it.
Through a straw???
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:00 am to Vacherie
Its a pretty good scam. These islands are full of old Vietnam and post vietnam vets who have never worked and are milking the Federal Govt for all they have.
They smoke weed and rely on gubment. So many of them.
They smoke weed and rely on gubment. So many of them.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:14 am to Jenious
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So if someone notifies the VA and files within a year and gets approved before the 1 cutoff, you're looking at a nice fat check of $25K or more if you're at 100%
Yes, but the one year cutoff is on filing. If you file at the one year mark it could take 6-8 months or longer for the VA to collect evidence, review, and make decisions. Those that get 100% on a first time filing would more than meet the OT's definition of disabled or disfigured.
But in reality only 20% of vets receiving disability are rated at 100%. Apparently, they all either post here or know someone that does.
Most vets get rated somewhere between 10-50% for various injuries or diagnosis. Its the accumulation of rated injuries that gets them to the higher %'s. The higher you get the harder it is to get to 100% due to "VA math". For example two 50% ratings is an overall 75% rating which pays at 80%. Three 50% ratings would equal 87.5% that pays at 90%. Ratings also change over time as conditions get worse or better. Several vets have had ratings reduced as they refile because their conditions have gotten worse and VA reevaluates their entire case file.
The other part is the VA is starting to crack down on the actual ratings. For example tinnitus used to be an automatic 10% rating no questions asked. However, they are in the process changing it where that is no longer the case and has to be paired with a measurable hearing loss. Sleep apnea linked to a service related injury used be an automatic 50% with CPAP. That's in the process of changing as well.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 10:20 am
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:21 am to armytiger96
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But in reality only 20% of vets receiving disability are rated at 100%
Which is an absurdly high number
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:48 am to cubsfan5150
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Which is an absurdly high number
Yes if you look at it from the view point that 100% disability means someone is basically completely disabled and can't function without the help of others and are unemployable.
No if you actually understand how the program works and that is really more of a workers comp settlement paying for damages that occurred during your employment rather than a claim against disability insurance.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:58 am to armytiger96
I fully understand how it works. It needs to be overhauled.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:04 pm to cubsfan5150
Now do Social Security disability fraud.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:07 pm to TygerLyfe
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Now do Social Security disability fraud.
Exponentially worse…
Posted on 5/24/25 at 1:17 pm to armytiger96
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Yes if you look at it from the view point that 100% disability means someone is basically completely disabled and can't function without the help of others and are unemployable.
thats the way it should work, but doesnt happen at all that way now. The people I know or have met seemingly have 0% disability yet get 100% disability benefits. It might take a while to get through the system to get approved but any vet who dedicates the time and effort to it will get it.
To me, signing up for 4 years shouldn't mean that you get paid out for the rest of your life, but that seems to be what it has become.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 1:30 pm to boxcar willie
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The people I know or have met seemingly have 0% disability yet get 100% disability benefits. It might take a while to get through the system to get approved but any vet who dedicates the time and effort to it will get it. To me, signing up for 4 years shouldn't mean that you get paid out for the rest of your life, but that seems to be what it has become.
Here comes the:
But hurrr durrrr don’t hate the player hate the game…. If you don’t like the rules then change them durrrr
Figuring out a way to game a disability system for the most you can milk out of it ‘because that’s the program is written’ seems like one of the least admirable and patriotic one could do.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 2:17 pm to boxcar willie
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thats the way it should work, but doesnt happen at all that way now. The people I know or have met seemingly have 0% disability yet get 100% disability benefits. It might take a while to get through the system to get approved but any vet who dedicates the time and effort to it will get it.
That's your opinion and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
However the Department of Veteran Affairs says:
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VA disability compensation (pay) offers a monthly tax-free payment to Veterans who got sick or INJURED while serving in the military and to Veterans whose service made an existing condition worse. You may qualify for VA disability benefits for physical conditions (like a chronic illness or injury) and mental health conditions (like PTSD) that developed before, during, or after service. Find out how to apply for and manage the Veterans disability benefits you’ve earned.
This is direct from the VA site. Just because the program wasn't written to match your criteria doesn't mean the vets who are applying for "benefits they've earned" doesn't make them low character, scam artist, scheming the system, etc.
This is no different than utilizing tax deductions that you qualify for, receiving SS, Medicare, Flood Insurance, etc.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 5/24/25 at 3:05 pm to armytiger96
You're right, it's written in a way that encourages fraud. It's no sweat off The doctors or psychiatrist in the v. A. System to help you win the jackpot to easy street whether your alleged injury or p t s d is legit or not. 4 years in the military shouldn't mean pay out for life, But that's just my opinion.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:55 pm to Sam Quint
Nope. I'm justifying Veterans holding their government accountable for issues created in service as per the contract signed.
Two.
Way.
Street.
Two.
Way.
Street.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:56 pm to Jake88
Nope, it's how I rationalize the contractual obligations of military service between Veterans and their government.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 7:07 pm to VictoryHill
quote:That contract doesn't include malingering disability like many do.
Nope, it's how I rationalize the contractual obligations of military service between Veterans and their government
Posted on 5/24/25 at 7:48 pm to cssamerican
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hearing loss
My own MD had the same misunderstanding of how requests for VA hearing aids works. All vets can apply for a free evaluation by a VA audiologist, but the test results may not meet the criteria that hearing loss is service related. I have heard from a "disabled Navy vet" that persistence and ringing of the ears helps. Part of the problem is the med techs pretty much fake the audiology test when during your separation physical. Everybody separates healthier than when they were drafted/enlisted.
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