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re: What would you do if the grid went down.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:27 pm to NOLALGD
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:27 pm to NOLALGD
quote:If you’re on blood pressure medication and survive the first couple of months, you won’t need the medication any more. You’ll lose enough weight and be doing enough physical labor that your blood pressure would likely go way down or be normal.
We also don't consider access to medication, and not just for the injured/sick. Sure you could probably hoard the basics, but its seems like most middle-upper class people today are taking some medication/prescription that is important to their daily well-being and/or blood pressure, mental health, anxiety, etc. When those medications run out it won't be good, even if you survive.
The people who take meds for serious heart disease, anti-rejection drugs, dialysis, and diabetes would be in serious trouble.
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There'd be a few survive and rebuild but the population would be pretty damn small.
Most of us would be gone with a few months
Ive thought about this and sadly I might take myself and family out if the situation deteriorated enough. A peaceful death is way better than a violent one.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:09 pm to jennBN
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Ive thought about this and sadly I might take myself and family out if the situation deteriorated enough. A peaceful death is way better than a violent one.
Does your family know about this? They might not think it sounds so peaceful.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:51 pm to Korkstand
EMP?
Wait for the Chinese to tell me what camp I’ll be in. Seriously if it’s really an EMP military action will be soon to follow
Wait for the Chinese to tell me what camp I’ll be in. Seriously if it’s really an EMP military action will be soon to follow
Posted on 8/25/22 at 12:38 am to ThuperThumpin
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The worst thing I could imagine is being stuck in a elevator. There will be thousands trapped with no one to help them.
And now I will be climbing stairs for the rest of my life.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 12:49 am to rickyh
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How long could you survive without power?
Not long.. I would suspect 3 day constitutes a serious problem... and is it a local outage or a larger area?
Maps people... Maps...
tornado or espionage?
Posted on 8/25/22 at 1:43 am to rickyh
With the resources I have me and mine a minimum of a year without moving. Food storage, garden, enough funds, etc.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 3:55 am to TideHater
quote:You've never shot a gun before, have you?
I would shoot them in the face
Posted on 8/25/22 at 4:24 am to rickyh
2weeks tops. Have you seen how soft the general population looks?
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:07 am to Napoleon
Two weeks without in winter from a massive blizzard. No electricity.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 7:24 am to Sneauxghost
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2weeks tops. Have you seen how soft the general population looks?
This is a bit extreme. I have lived over a week without power after hurricanes. It's rough but people tend to reach out and help, not turn into murderous mobs. Society will carry on. Power would be restored within a couple of months. People aren't starving to death in a couple of weeks or months. I'm considered average weight and I could get by a couple of months on protein powders, bars, supplements, and canned food, still be within healthy range for my height (got 30-40lbs to play with). Something more sinister would have to occur, like an invasion or true pandemic..
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:31 am to Scruffy
quote:You folks watch too much apocalypse TV.
You have a 3 month food supply for yourself.
It dwindles to nothing once your neighbors find out.
Most homes aren’t prepared for a severe storm, let alone have enough food for a few weeks.
The minute they note that you have and they don’t have, your life will be in danger.
Could that happen down the road if someone's kid is about to die of starvation? Sure.
But you dudes post like 3 days into the grid going down, your neighbors are going to turn into rabid killers to get to your stash, and there will be 10 different gangs of 50 people just looking to rape and kill everyone like it's The Walking Dead, and that's just silly. 99.9% of neighbors will be banding together, and that alone will help prolong your chances of survival. And yes, while even neighbors in your group can go rogue, that's not happening right away.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 9:43 am
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:39 am to shel311
I also think a lot of folks who say they or their parents have a place out in the woods, and they'll just go there.
That may work, but that could also be drastically lessening the chances of survival. You're now isolating yourself, and there's no reason to think you're the only one in the world who knows about this spot. So there's probably quite a few people with the same exact plan as you to take shelter in that same camp, and they may have a group that outnumbers your group by a good bit so the "i'll just shoot them" route we always hear isn't going to work.
Another thing is if you have a wife and kids, especially young kids. That's really gonna hamper your ability to care for them.
I still stick with the best chance for survival when factoring in all aspects, is banding together with your neighbors and continuing to grow your group to your entire neighborhood, then the next neighborhood, and so on and so forth. You'll have a better chance of multiple people more equipped for surival, doctors, and all of the important types you'll need to help for survival. No, the doctors may not have access to meds to be of full service, but they surely can improvise a shite ton better than someone who isnt' a doctor to give best results given the situation.
I'd take having that community over going at it alone, especially with a family.
That may work, but that could also be drastically lessening the chances of survival. You're now isolating yourself, and there's no reason to think you're the only one in the world who knows about this spot. So there's probably quite a few people with the same exact plan as you to take shelter in that same camp, and they may have a group that outnumbers your group by a good bit so the "i'll just shoot them" route we always hear isn't going to work.
Another thing is if you have a wife and kids, especially young kids. That's really gonna hamper your ability to care for them.
I still stick with the best chance for survival when factoring in all aspects, is banding together with your neighbors and continuing to grow your group to your entire neighborhood, then the next neighborhood, and so on and so forth. You'll have a better chance of multiple people more equipped for surival, doctors, and all of the important types you'll need to help for survival. No, the doctors may not have access to meds to be of full service, but they surely can improvise a shite ton better than someone who isnt' a doctor to give best results given the situation.
I'd take having that community over going at it alone, especially with a family.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 9:44 am
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:43 am to shel311
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is banding together with your neighbors and continuing to grow your group to your entire neighborhood, then the next neighborhood, and so on and so forth.
The most violent elements of your pod will control all the resources.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:If you go to your camp or wherever, the most violent person who also decides to go to your camp will control all of your resources as well.
The most violent elements of your pod will control all the resources.
You're also not factoring in strength in numbers. You have a small faction that get violent, if your group os large enough, good luck to that small faction contending with a group 50x larger than there small group. If you go off alone, there's very little chance you're the only person who ever thought of going to whatever that place is, so you lose all ability to protect yourself or your family against any group that comes through.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 9:47 am
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:47 am to lsufan1971
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One problem with these thousands of other people. Not many are very well armed, know shite about outdoor survival, can navigate outside city blocks without their gps.
But you do, right?
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:48 am to shel311
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If you go to your camp or wherever, the most violent person who also decides to go to your camp will control all of your resources as well.
Correct, but its a numbers game. The more people you're around, the more bad eggs. I can do much better with a few natural defenses.
They'll turn on you in a survival situation, and you'll turn on your neighbor. All of us will. I think youre safer with more natural resources, and less predators.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 9:50 am
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:That's definitely a fair point.
Correct, but its a numbers game. The more people you're around, the more bad eggs. I can do much better with a few natural defenses.
They'll turn on you in a survival situation, and you'll turn on your neighbor. All of us will. I think youre safer with more natural resources, and less predators.
I'd concede that going out in the woods can be better for some(I'm thinking no family and not just the outdoors type who does some hunting, but a full on survivalist which most of us aren't), but I still think the way I see people post, they're not factoring in a lot of things.
Like you said, the more people around, the more bad eggs. Very true. But if I have a group of 200 and 1-2 go rogue, they will be neutralized very quickly. If you're off in the woods, it only takes 1 dude who is your equal or better than you that can take you out. But yes, you will come across less people obviously.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 9:54 am
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:59 am to shel311
quote:This isn’t a few day type of situation.
But you dudes post like 3 days into the grid going down, your neighbors are going to turn into rabid killers to get to your stash, and there will be 10 different gangs of 50 people just looking to rape and kill everyone like it's The Walking Dead, and that's just silly. 99.9% of neighbors will be banding together, and that alone will help prolong your chances of survival. And yes, while even neighbors in your group can go rogue, that's not happening right away.
It would probably occur over a couple weeks.
Again, the issue is food.
Most people really have no idea how short their supply in home is.
If it really came down to it, it would look like the scene in This Is The End where they have 1 Milky Way, eggs, bacon, and liquor.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:04 am to shel311
quote:I think one of the better descriptions of how this would probably go is from World War Z.
Like you said, the more people around, the more bad eggs. Very true. But if I have a group of 200 and 1-2 go rogue, they will be neutralized very quickly. If you're off in the woods, it only takes 1 dude who is your equal or better than you that can take you out. But yes, you will come across less people obviously.
Everyone came together at a campground and were sharing food and supplies.
It was happy and fun until winter when food and supplies dwindled.
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