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Posted on 1/28/26 at 11:56 am to Junger
Somebody on this board was bragging about being an ex-pat in Ecuador a few weeks ago. Was bragging about how easy it was to immigrate there.
At least I hope it was Ecuador and another SA country. I am old. My memory may be bad.
At least I hope it was Ecuador and another SA country. I am old. My memory may be bad.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 11:56 am
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:06 pm to Ailsa
Any embassy or consulate has the right to do this; law enforcement cannot enter without permission. Eric's a doofus for being outraged over this.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:11 pm to SallysHuman
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What laws is the consulate breaking?
I ask sincerely because typically "base" is "base" and any person swaps/handovers must be negotiated. At least that's what the TV told me.
ARGO frick yourself.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 4:11 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Consulates aren’t safe zones for criminals—they’re diplomatic missions, not criminal sanctuaries. ICE operates under U.S. law to remove threats like convicted predators, regardless of where they hide. Ecuador’s obstruction undermines sovereignty and the rule of law.
If foreign missions shield lawbreakers, they’re complicit in endangering American communities. The solution? Full enforcement of existing statutes, cutting aid to nations that harbor fugitives, and leveraging every tool to deport those who exploit diplomatic protections.
Sovereignty isn’t negotiable—either foreign governments respect our laws, or they lose the privileges of operating here.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 4:15 pm to Ailsa
FAKE NEWS!!
Posted on 1/29/26 at 4:16 pm to Ailsa
Wouldn't the fact that the embassy shielded them, invalidate any kind of asylum claim?
You can't seek safety in a country you are fleeing because it is dangerous to live there.
You can't seek safety in a country you are fleeing because it is dangerous to live there.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 4:18 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Expel the diplomats if true
Posted on 1/29/26 at 4:19 pm to Ailsa
Aisla, are you a John Barron alter?
You're certainly following his playbook by doubling down on stupid.
You're certainly following his playbook by doubling down on stupid.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 4:20 pm to Red Stick Rambler
Yes
Posted on 1/29/26 at 4:30 pm to Red Stick Rambler
in case you missed it:
I looked further into this and diplomats do have immunity to a point but if this consulate in minnesota is harboring say...a murderer that is or is not a diplomat, there are options.
AI Overview
A murderer generally cannot be permanently shielded from U.S. authorities in a U.S. consulate or embassy. While these locations are protected by the Vienna Convention from unauthorized entry, they are not sanctuaries for criminals. U.S. authorities can, and often do, arrest suspects once they leave or via diplomatic negotiation with the foreign nation.
Key Aspects of Consulate Protection:
Immunity Limits: While diplomats have immunity from arrest, this does not typically cover grave crimes like murder, especially if the person is not a senior diplomatic agent.
Jurisdiction: A crime committed inside a consulate is still subject to the laws of the host country, and the host country may request the suspect be handed over.
Diplomatic Pressure: While a foreign country could technically refuse to enter a U.S. consulate, it would cause a severe diplomatic incident, likely resulting in the suspect being expelled or extradited.
If a murderer is a foreign diplomat with high-level immunity, they cannot be arrested, but the U.S. can declare them persona non grata and force their removal from the country.
I looked further into this and diplomats do have immunity to a point but if this consulate in minnesota is harboring say...a murderer that is or is not a diplomat, there are options.
AI Overview
A murderer generally cannot be permanently shielded from U.S. authorities in a U.S. consulate or embassy. While these locations are protected by the Vienna Convention from unauthorized entry, they are not sanctuaries for criminals. U.S. authorities can, and often do, arrest suspects once they leave or via diplomatic negotiation with the foreign nation.
Key Aspects of Consulate Protection:
Immunity Limits: While diplomats have immunity from arrest, this does not typically cover grave crimes like murder, especially if the person is not a senior diplomatic agent.
Jurisdiction: A crime committed inside a consulate is still subject to the laws of the host country, and the host country may request the suspect be handed over.
Diplomatic Pressure: While a foreign country could technically refuse to enter a U.S. consulate, it would cause a severe diplomatic incident, likely resulting in the suspect being expelled or extradited.
If a murderer is a foreign diplomat with high-level immunity, they cannot be arrested, but the U.S. can declare them persona non grata and force their removal from the country.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 4:49 pm to Indefatigable
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There isn’t a diplomatic mission on earth that’s going to allow local/host nation law enforcement to enter.
Fake outrage.
Unless it's an American Embassy on foreign soil. Then we are fair game.
We shouldn't be so kind to people that hate us.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 4:51 pm to SallysHuman
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Would you care for it if an American were being chased in Ecuador, made it to "base" and was dragged out?
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Several U.S. embassies and diplomatic facilities have been attacked throughout history, often stemming from regional conflicts or anti-American sentiment
I think you guys completely forgetting things like Benghazi shows I'm right.
It was more important to protect Hillary.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 1/29/26 at 4:54 pm to dgnx6
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Several U.S. embassies and diplomatic facilities have been attacked throughout history, often stemming from regional conflicts or anti-American sentiment
And did we like that?
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:04 pm to Ailsa
That’s par for the course man.
They can’t expect to enter foreign embassy
They can’t expect to enter foreign embassy
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:17 pm to dgnx6
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think you guys completely forgetting things like Benghazi shows I'm right.
No one has forgotten that.
What are you right about? I am so confused as to what your point or stance is in regard to consulates, embassies and standard procedures.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:32 pm to dgnx6
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Unless it's an American Embassy on foreign soil. Then we are fair game.
I’m unaware of any US diplomatic mission every willingly allowing local law enforcement access.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:32 pm to Ailsa
The vatican blocked Delta from grabbing Noriega.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:52 pm to dgnx6
quote:
quote:
Would you care for it if an American were being chased in Ecuador, made it to "base" and was dragged out?
quote:
Several U.S. embassies and diplomatic facilities have been attacked throughout history, often stemming from regional conflicts or anti-American sentiment
I think you guys completely forgetting things like Benghazi shows I'm right.
It was more important to protect Hillary.
I do like that you're comparing ICE and CBP to terrorist cells and lawless mobs, here!!!
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:54 pm to Ailsa
Meh. Just wait it out and nab them when they leave.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 5:54 pm
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