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Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:16 pm to burger bearcat
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At what point do we say this isn’t “free speech” anymore?
Way past what I just saw in that video.
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If one of us verbally assaulted a local LEO like this and harassed them they would cuff, taze, and jail us (and deserve it)
The fact you support use of force bc of bad words says all I need to know about how much of a snowflake you are. How long have you hated our constitution?
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:17 pm to TexasForever81
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We could arrest for disorderly conduct “language” in Texas. Like a traffic ticket, class C. Didn’t very often, but it would fit in during a lot of these protests
Those are the type of arrests that would be handled by locals IF they were assisting, but they’re not, and even if there is a minor federal charge that fits that disorderly behavior , ICE can’t afford to get bogged down in the arrest, booking and subsequent court appearances for such low hanging charges. There simply aren’t enough agents to focus on their main mission and fill in the gap that local LEOs should be filling.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:18 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
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Is there not a case to be made of obstruction. Force them to stand 100' away from the activity like the police have started doing.
Why do you hate accountability?
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:19 pm to burger bearcat
If ice would have leaned into him I believe you may hay heard a screaming girl at that point
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:19 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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I think we are overlooking the part where it says we have the right to PEACEFULLY assemble.
That’s a different first amendment right than freedom of speech. Snowflakes offended by loud voices and potty words
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:21 pm to SixthAndBarone
quote:Courts have consistently ruled you're wrong about that, Mr. Clarence Darrow.
The constitution doesn’t give us free speech with conditions.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:21 pm to burger bearcat
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I feel like most of the pothead libertarians have never actually read the writings and context around the bill of rights.
Well there’s been about 250 years of jurisprudence on the first amendment since then…
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:21 pm to burger bearcat
Obstruction, physical assaults, breaking and entering are not legitimate protests.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:23 pm to geauxpurple
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That type of speech is not protected by the first amendment. Those are fighting words, a face to face confrontation likely to provoke violence.
Cursing out, degrading, criticizing, and yelling at officers does not rise to unprotected speech.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:25 pm to LSURussian
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Courts have consistently ruled you're wrong about that, Mr. Clarence Darrow.
You are correct. However, what I saw in the video does not meet one of the very narrow exceptions.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:27 pm to burger bearcat
leftist yesterday: "words are violence, and charlie kirk deserved to die. there is no 1st amendment protection for hate."
leftist today: "this unhinged minority has every right to tell ICE how much he hates them. he's protected by the 1st amendment."
leftist today: "this unhinged minority has every right to tell ICE how much he hates them. he's protected by the 1st amendment."
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:30 pm to burger bearcat
The moment they point and say the word "you" they are fair game. It presents a substantial political problem for them though.
This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:34 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:And the agent let the guy squawk away. But the screaming guy came really close to threatening the second ICE agent when he told him "I'll punch you in the face, M....f" which is not protected by the 1st Amendment.
However, what I saw in the video does not meet one of the very narrow exceptions.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:37 pm to burger bearcat
You can’t interfere. He could go back about 20 yards and yell what he wants.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:37 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Why do you hate accountability?
How does rioting, intimidation and interference with lawful immigration enforcement ensure accountability?
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:42 pm to burger bearcat
Any one of our founding fathers would have throat punched that dude.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:51 pm to prouddawg
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Those are the type of arrests that would be handled by locals IF they were assisting, but they’re not, and even if there is a minor federal charge that fits that disorderly behavior , ICE can’t afford to get bogged down in the arrest, booking and subsequent court appearances for such low hanging charges. There simply aren’t enough agents to focus on their main mission and fill in the gap that local LEOs should be filling.
That’s very true.
Sure be nice if the locals would help in the process!
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:54 pm to ChanceOfRainIsNever
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How does rioting, intimidation and interference with lawful immigration enforcement ensure accountability?
They wouldn’t, but an arbitrary 100 ft halo sure would (which is what I was responding to—try to keep up).
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:55 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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I think we are overlooking the part where it says we have the right to PEACEFULLY assemble
“Peaceably” but yeah.
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