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DEI in Question as Female, Minority Pilots Caused Half of Pilot-Error Crashes
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:02 am
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:02 am
The DEI effect of lowered standards also permeates all of the other critical areas from manufacturing and maintenance to air traffic control. This is profoundly stupid ideology and politics that is endangering lives.
Affirmative Action Quotas in Question as Female, Minority Pilots Caused Half of Pilot-Error Crashes
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Daniel Huff, a former White House lawyer, noted in a recent analysis that the drive toward diversity and inclusion in the airline industry has put passengers at risk.
In an article for the New York Post, Huff wrote that President Donald Trump was right to rescind diversity efforts at the Federal Aviation Administration.
That’s because female and minority pilots — many of whom entered the industry amid a drive toward diversity among pilots — were responsible for half of pilot-error crashes.
Despite making up 10 percent of pilots, they were responsible for four out of eight such crashes since 2000.
https://www.westernjournal.com/affirmative-action-quotas-question-female-minority-pilots-caused-half-pilot-error-crashes/
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:07 am to Auburn1968
Remember when people said Charlie Kirk was a racist after his assassination because of his comments about how people should naturally feel concerned when they see a black pilot on their airplane?
The more time that goes by, the more those people are going to continue to look like complete and total morons, to the point that those opinions will start to appear negligent to their own personal safety.
The more time that goes by, the more those people are going to continue to look like complete and total morons, to the point that those opinions will start to appear negligent to their own personal safety.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 9:08 am
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:10 am to imjustafatkid
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how people should naturally feel concerned when they see a black pilot on their airplane?
Do we know for a fact that they do lower standards for women or minorities? If that's the case, then Kirk may have had a case.
But otherwise, I wouldn't agree with him here. I can understand why they might (some bigotry, some racism perhaps -- these things exist) but not why they *should*.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 9:13 am
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:10 am to Auburn1968
Nothing against female pilots.
Just don't lower the qualifications and standards to have them, that's all.
Now every female pilot I see I wonder if she's legitimate or an unqualified token. And that's not from sexism, that's from just knowing the facts. If there was no DEI lowering of the bar, then I wouldn't wonder if a female pilot actually earned it and is qualified.
Just don't lower the qualifications and standards to have them, that's all.
Now every female pilot I see I wonder if she's legitimate or an unqualified token. And that's not from sexism, that's from just knowing the facts. If there was no DEI lowering of the bar, then I wouldn't wonder if a female pilot actually earned it and is qualified.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:12 am to Auburn1968
Consequences don't care about DEI. If you're going to have DEI hires, don't have them in positions that can kill people.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:13 am to theballguy
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Do we know for a fact that they do lower standards for women or minorities?
Yes.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:13 am to RoyalWe
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If you're going to have DEI hires, don't have them in positions that can kill people.
How about, don't have them at all?
How about anyone can apply. If you meet the standards, you can come train and pass to get your licenses. Same standard applied to all. Very simple concept imo.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:14 am to theballguy
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Do we know for a fact that they do lower standards for women or minorities? If that's the case, then Kirk may have had a case.
That was his point b/c we will view minority pilots as DEI even if they "got in" the regular way (solid marks in testings, etc.)
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:14 am to imjustafatkid
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Yes
Then that's not a good thing.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:14 am to imjustafatkid
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Remember when people said Charlie Kirk was a racist after his assassination because of his comments about how people should naturally feel concerned when they see a black pilot on their airplan
And all he said was 'I hope they went to a good school'.
And the subtlety was lost on half the nation.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:14 am to theballguy
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Do we know for a fact that they do lower standards for women or minorities?
Lol really????
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:15 am to idlewatcher
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That was his point b/c we will view minority pilots as DEI even if they "got in" the regular way (solid marks in testings, etc.)
"even if they got it in the regular way" .... they either do or they don't. Which is it? Rhetorical question really.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:16 am to LuckyTiger
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Just don't lower the qualifications and standards to have them, that's all.
Now every female pilot I see I wonder if she's legitimate or an unqualified token. And that's not from sexism, that's from just knowing the facts. If there was no DEI lowering of the bar, then I wouldn't wonder if a female pilot actually earned it and is qualified.
It’s Russian Roulette. Is the pilot qualified or forced to achieve a quota. Lowering standards is insane.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:17 am to idlewatcher
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That was his point b/c we will view minority pilots as DEI even if they "got in" the regular way (solid marks in testings, etc.)
exactly. and honestly in a sane world it should also piss off women and minorities too. i wouldn’t want my credentials or skills/talents/efforts questioned, but as long as DEI exists you are grouped in no matter what
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:17 am to Auburn1968
Why are airplane crashes dropping and are safer than they've ever been while Minority and female pilots enter the industry?
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:17 am to Strannix
From Elon's Grok:
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Do we have proof with things like airline pilot licenses with DEI hires that their standards were lower in any way?
No, there is no concrete, documented proof—such as specific cases of lowered certification requirements, altered FAA licensing standards, or evidence of pilots receiving licenses/airline transport pilot (ATP) certifications with reduced qualifications explicitly due to DEI initiatives—that standards for airline pilot licenses have been lowered for DEI-related hires.
Pilot licensing in the US is regulated by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), which sets uniform standards for certifications like the ATP certificate (requiring at least 1,500 flight hours, among other rigorous training and testing requirements). These standards apply to all applicants regardless of background, and no credible sources indicate that the FAA has modified these core certification criteria to accommodate diversity goals.
Claims about DEI leading to lower standards often stem from:
Airline recruitment and training programs (e.g., United Airlines' Aviate academy, which aimed for 50% of cadets to be women or people of color to increase access to training opportunities for underrepresented groups).
Broader criticisms that DEI priorities might lead to hiring less experienced candidates to meet diversity targets.
However, multiple analyses and industry sources emphasize that:
Actual pilot certification and licensing remain merit-based and unchanged by DEI.
Hiring shifts (e.g., some airlines lowering advertised minimum flight hours for applications during pilot shortages post-pandemic) are attributed to market factors like retirements and demand, not DEI policies.
No evidence links DEI to safety incidents or unqualified pilots passing FAA checks.
For instance:
Aviation experts and pilots (including from sources like Captain Jenny Beatty and One Mile at a Time) state that standards for becoming a pilot haven't been lowered; DEI efforts focus on outreach, training access, and equal opportunity, not waiving requirements.
Reports explicitly note no documented cases of training standards being reduced for diversity purposes, and no proof of any pilot failing to meet FAA qualifications yet being hired/licensed due to DEI.
Criticisms (e.g., from conservative groups or opinion pieces) often rely on speculation, anecdotal concerns, or misrepresentations (like conflating FAA air traffic controller hiring controversies with pilots), but lack specific evidence for pilots.
In summary, while DEI programs in airlines have sparked debate and some legal challenges over potential discrimination in hiring preferences, the evidence does not support claims of lowered standards specifically for pilot licenses or certifications. The FAA's licensing process remains standardized and evidence-based, with safety as the priority.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:19 am to Auburn1968
The Lysenkoism of the skies.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:21 am to Good Times
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It’s Russian Roulette. Is the pilot qualified or forced to achieve a quota. Lowering standards is insane.
The results of lower standards in all critical areas will show up in the data over time. It appears that it has already started.
Obama threw out the air traffic control training and qualification system to open it up to more minorities.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 9:30 am
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:24 am to theballguy
I think you’re missing the point. Perception is always greater than or equal to reality.
He was remarking upon the PERCEPTION of them being SEEN as unqualified simply because they are a minority and DEI was so prevalent.
In a way, DEI has actually increased the amount of these “racist” perceptions because it’s difficult to know if they earned it or were given it.
So much of this has hurt the high performing minorities because they get lumped in with the freeloaders and handout recipients unfortunately.
He was remarking upon the PERCEPTION of them being SEEN as unqualified simply because they are a minority and DEI was so prevalent.
In a way, DEI has actually increased the amount of these “racist” perceptions because it’s difficult to know if they earned it or were given it.
So much of this has hurt the high performing minorities because they get lumped in with the freeloaders and handout recipients unfortunately.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:24 am to Auburn1968
The Leftist Revolution requires the masses to tolerate a certain level of casualties as the cost of fundamental transformation of the USA from white supremacist to Leftist Utopia.
Remember what Marx and Engles said about breaking eggs to make an omelet.
Crying over these casualties is reactionary, disloyal to the revolution and despicable childish sentimentality.
Remember what Marx and Engles said about breaking eggs to make an omelet.
Crying over these casualties is reactionary, disloyal to the revolution and despicable childish sentimentality.
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