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re: Ever had your job become outsourced?
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:37 am to OBReb6
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:37 am to OBReb6
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it is a disaster every single time
Having been around dozens of Indians on student visas getting a masters in computer science, maybe 2 of them came off as employable
I wouldn’t trust the rest of them to paint a wall
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Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:37 am to fareplay
Have a friend who worked for IBM. His job got outsourced to South America. They actually had to train the people that were taking their jobs. Got a sweet 9 month severance, but after 3 months they said the outsourcing was not working and asked him back. Continued to get the remaining severance, a raise and a bonus for coming back.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:38 am to fwtex
You’re stupid stop posting in my thread
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:39 am to fareplay
yup, got replaced by croatians. best part was we trained them how to do our jobs before getting the axe.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:43 am to Jrv2damac
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Having been around dozens of Indians on student visas getting a masters in computer science, maybe 2 of them came off as employable
They are “smart” in that they are highly capable of navigating wide ranges of complicated specifications, but they have no common sense and struggle to identify what certain things should not be applicable. And very little thing has to be explained in a thorough and formal manner to get them to understand.
Its so exhausting
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:46 am to fareplay
Always the same demands.... document your processes to outsource, or you get no severance.
If more of us were able to walk under that demand, there would be less outsourcing.
Even when documented, Indians [not just them] can't handle issues which arise if problems occur.
If more of us were able to walk under that demand, there would be less outsourcing.
Even when documented, Indians [not just them] can't handle issues which arise if problems occur.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:47 am to el Gaucho
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It’s sad how some of yall would put things like jobs over human rights for the lgbt and Ukrainians
Don’t forget human rights for Hamas.
Edit: yes. It was a joke.
This post was edited on 7/11/24 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:48 am to fareplay
Wasn’t my job but a company I worked for outsourced some big data project to India instead of hiring Americans. One of the coding guys was a friend of mine and he was constantly bitching about them. Things not getting done correctly, language barrier, and more stuff. A lot of it was nit picky stuff because they did get it done fast and about 85% right. One board meeting the CEO had enough complaining and said something to the effect of we could have hired 3 Indian companies to do the job independently and a 4th Indian company to go over the other 3 companies results and merge the parts each company got right into the final project and it would still be cheaper than hiring an American company.
This was a while back and I don’t think that it is quite this cheap to outsource anymore though.
This was a while back and I don’t think that it is quite this cheap to outsource anymore though.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:50 am to fareplay
I've made damn sure that doesn't happen to me personally or to anyone I employ. But it happens. It sucks. I don't blame politics for it to be honest.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:51 am to fareplay
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I get that capitalism at all costs for profits but at cost of American jobs, not sure how I feel about this.
How much of your salary do you want to donate to his company so that they'll rehire him?
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:53 am to fareplay
JP Morgan executives have played that game with India. Some exec gets a big bonus for saving a lot of money by sending IT or accounting to India, but after a year or so it doesn't work out so well and is brought back.
I had animation jobs that I would have gotten exported to Pakistan and the Philippines. Internet makes that very easy these days.
I had animation jobs that I would have gotten exported to Pakistan and the Philippines. Internet makes that very easy these days.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:56 am to el Gaucho
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Wow really funny
It’s sad how some of yall would put things like jobs over human rights for the lgbt and Ukrainians
Can’t remember the last time I chuckled at one of your posts. No offense.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:57 am to TexasTiger13
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I work for a major chemical company and they are in the process of moving customer service to India. For my customers it has been a total failure. Orders missed or wrong products shipped. Critical orders delayed due to 2 or 3 days of no response from the customer service team over there. We had dedicated reps for each customer and now a team handles it but there doesn’t seem to be any communication within that team.
An ethnic Indian I met was a chemical engineer from a good American university. His job was outsourced to India.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 12:18 pm to OBReb6
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They are “smart” in that they are highly capable of navigating wide ranges of complicated specifications, but they have no common sense and struggle to identify what certain things should not be applicable. And very little thing has to be explained in a thorough and formal manner to get them to understand.
Its so exhausting
Millennials are the new Indians.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 12:21 pm to fareplay
Not to me, but a friend of mine in a very large national environmental corporation had their entire finance department outsourced to India in the past 3-months.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 12:22 pm to Flats
Isn’t this globalism
Posted on 7/11/24 at 12:24 pm to fareplay
Negative......
Never will be.
Never will be.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 12:29 pm to fareplay
Yes. Intuit (think turbotax and quickbooks) outsourced their whole billing team to India (where they dont even sell any products).
Was managing a team of 9 here in the US. Re-organization happened. US team re-assigned or let go. I was re assigned to managing a team in India all night and working all day before i left. Replaced me with a manager in India.
Intuit was definitely woke because they had to be. I was constantly in hiring meetings evaluating people for new jobs in my time there. The guiding principle was that race or gender were used as tie breakers. In situations where the candidates are equivalent, the minority or woman would always get the job.
Was managing a team of 9 here in the US. Re-organization happened. US team re-assigned or let go. I was re assigned to managing a team in India all night and working all day before i left. Replaced me with a manager in India.
Intuit was definitely woke because they had to be. I was constantly in hiring meetings evaluating people for new jobs in my time there. The guiding principle was that race or gender were used as tie breakers. In situations where the candidates are equivalent, the minority or woman would always get the job.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 12:32 pm to fareplay
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Isn’t this globalism
No.
There will always be products that can be produced cheaper elsewhere. If there's a good reason to keep them in-house (for instance having a steel industry able to support the military) then we should look at that, but understand it's not free. You'll be supporting that industry or product by paying higher prices.
Put another way, there's rarely (if ever) a purely economic reason to resist outsourcing to people who are more efficient at it. There may be national security reasons for doing so, there may be "fairness" reasons for doing so, but it's not going to be naked economics.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 12:33 pm to fareplay
That's why I never understood all of the people pushing for remote work. It seems short sighted.
If your job can be done remotely by you from a few miles away, then your company with realize it can be done cheaper by someone in Bangladesh.
If your job can be done remotely by you from a few miles away, then your company with realize it can be done cheaper by someone in Bangladesh.
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