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re: "Fiscally conservative but socially liberal"
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:34 pm to the808bass
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:34 pm to the808bass
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Bro. You’re stupid and don’t even know it. That is normal for stupid people.
Your only arguments are ad hominem...it says everything. But, again, that's cool. You do you. You have told everyone who you are and shown your inability to articulate rational thoughts.
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:35 pm to Pettifogger
Judaism
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:36 pm to the808bass
Peak Dunning-Kruger.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:37 pm to AUauditor
Most Mexicans are fiscally liberal and socially conservative.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:40 pm to Jax-Tiger
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I'm not "fiscally conservative and socially liberal". A lot of people say that but that's not what they really are.
What most people mean is that they are fiscally conservative and don't care about social issues.
Bingo.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:40 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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Guiding principle 1: Property owners can control, use, transfer or dispose of their property in any manner that does not violate the rights of others.
What is your argument for this proposition?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:42 pm to Telos
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What is your argument for this proposition?
Will you send me your bank account information and log in? I can send you a private email to get it if that's easier.
Let me know.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:44 pm to Pettifogger
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I'm sure it'll annoy some on here, but I think this particular combination is a major part of the rot in the conservative movement.
It also often seems like a compromise - leaving behind cultural baggage to clean up economic issues - but it's been a complete failure anyway.
Agree 100%
These people are losers basically, and are enablers of our culutral decline.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:46 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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This country was founded on liberty and property rights. Legislating morality is what has happened over time...and it's flawed. It necessarily presumes that government exists to impose its moral will on its citizens.
This is not really true and you are also ignoring the concept of federalism.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:47 pm to Ex-Popcorn
I think the root of the problem is that you think immoral people would recognize property rights. It will never happen.
You can call it what you want, but "morals" or social mores, are the guiding principals which have made this country great and without them we are all eating shite sandwiches.
You can call it what you want, but "morals" or social mores, are the guiding principals which have made this country great and without them we are all eating shite sandwiches.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:49 pm to burger bearcat
Fiscally conservative socially moderate is me
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:50 pm to bigDgator
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You can call it what you want, but "morals" or social mores, are the guiding principals which have made this country great and without them we are all eating shite sandwiches.
I just completely disagree. You probably also believe that you need religion to be a good person.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:59 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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Being fiscally "conservative" and socially "liberal" is really the only philosophically defensible position. It all ties to property rights. Government should exist only to defend property rights. You can't take the position, for example, that government doesn't have the right to take more from me in taxes (because "it's mine") while also taking the position that the government should ban marijuana. If it's mine, it's mine.
Preach.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:08 pm to burger bearcat
The 2 tangle when you consider paying for un fudnded social programs like snap, Medicaid, some housing programs etc.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:20 pm to SlidellCajun
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The 2 tangle when you consider paying for un fudnded social programs like snap, Medicaid, some housing programs etc.
They tangle well before that. People don't notice it because there's such widespread agreement over "don't have an orgy on the public playground", but that's legislating moral behavior and limiting freedom. You can go to the park, you can play flag football, you can even wear a bikini. But at some point we say "ok, that's enough" and we draw a line that regulates behavior and it is 100% based on subjective moral values.
The argument isn't whether or not to draw a line, it's where the line gets drawn.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:24 pm to mmcgrath
I didn't say they were. I made a second paragraph to indicate a transition to explaining how I came to agree with the sentiments expressed in the first.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:25 pm to Ex-Popcorn
quote:Depends what you define as "good person". According to my religion, no one is "good" (perfectly righteous).
You probably also believe that you need religion to be a good person.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:28 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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The issue really is that people cannot differentiate between the role of government and personal beliefs. Just because I believe cocaine is bad doesn't mean I think government should ban its use.
Very well stated sir. The gov't has VASTLY outgrown its original role and scope.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:29 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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I just completely disagree.
That's because you don't understand what "subjective" means.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:30 pm to burger bearcat
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My explanation, is you can't have it both ways
Sure you can dumdum. People do every day.
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