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Posted on 3/2/26 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 3:43 pm to
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this action was a massive frick up. Politically and militarily it's a massive frick up.


Explain
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 3:59 pm to
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That’s just what they tell the ignorant masses, so that you’ll be ok with it.
Posted by jfootball14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:03 pm to
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July 31,1989


I feel like we should’ve gotten over it by now
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7591 posts
Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:07 pm to
The campaign is at its peak now.

It's all downhill from here. It will become less and less popular by the day and frankly it's not that popular now. That's the politics. You can spin it any way you like but there is no way to make a rational case that this is "America First". America First is opposed to this very kind of action.

As far as the military, we will bomb the ever loving frick out of them for a month. It will not be enough to collapse the regime in Iran. The regime will hang on.

Then what? What will you say we do in 6 weeks when we have bombed Iran to shite and the regime is still in control?

It's hard to believe how so many on this board have so quickly embraced the Iran war neocons have been drooling over for decades.

We aren't taking down this country via air power alone. It's just not going to happen.

We have seen this movie before.


Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:10 pm to
Americans support military operations that are successful. If this ends up being a success you will see massive support for it. If it doesn’t, you’ll see massive dislike of it.

This is the political calculus and it’s very high stakes for Trump. But this is why I like him, he is comfortable doing the right thing even if it means operating under extremely high stakes scenarios.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:11 pm to
So, you enlisting and looking for some action in Bandar Abbas or Isfahan? You say whatever it takes, so I assume you will abandon your keyboard assault and volunteer for night action in the Iranian cities or maybe countryside?

Can the Marines or Army count on you, or are you thinking this is a good idea for someone else or their kid?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27432 posts
Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:11 pm to
How many Americans should we allow Iran to kill before we did what we did.

The count was already over 1000 during the last 47 years.

How many more would you need before you supported these strikes?
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:16 pm to
This is such a stupid fricking thing people like you constantly post

Young men are expected to go to war when asked to by their nations. Many if not most 18-25 year old men actually WANT TO do it.

I did it in Iraq and Afghanistan from 18-22. It was what was asked of us as a generation, so we answered the call, even if it in the end wasn’t really a war worth fighting and had the possibly worst idea of all time attached to it; exporting democracy.

Iran is a different animal, they’re responsible for the death of 1000s of Americans in both of those theatres, but also exporting terrorism around the world and to our allies. This is a justified action on a moral and geopolitical level. There’s no ideological rhetoric coming from our government about exporting democracy.

Destroy the ballistic missiles, destroy the navy, no nukes, unleash the most lethal and precise air campaign in history on all those responsible


How old are you? I only ask because the boomers have got to be one of the only generations in history that weren’t ever asked to fight a war of any kind in any way. The reality for almost all of the rest of young men throughout American and world history is you’re asked to fight in ways that can range from small to very large and from unjustified to justified
This post was edited on 3/2/26 at 4:26 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36719 posts
Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:35 pm to
You said whatever it takes, so they need someone who is experienced to catch shite on the ground in Iran. So you fit the description. You should re- up since you think it such a good idea to get your arse shot at in someone else's country. Hey, kill them over there so we don't have to do it here.

We ain't defending shite there unless you think protecting Israel's or Saudi arse is somehow protecting our arse. Don't hand me the nuclear argument. Bibi has been peddling that crap since Rabin got killed 30 years ago.....and besides did we not obliterate their capacity over the summer?

I'm tired of placating Saudis and Israelis, because that is what we are doing.
Posted by Tigergreg
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:36 pm to
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Oh, there’s going to be US Troops on the ground.


Doubtful. More likely Israeli commandos.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47267 posts
Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:37 pm to
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Everyone has a number. Just tell us yours for the record.


As few as possible
Posted by Usmc
Member since Oct 2024
433 posts
Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:41 pm to
They counted me for more than a decade till I got medically retired.
His anwser is the only correct one.
Would do it again and recommend it 10/10.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 4:41 pm to
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frankly it's not that popular now.


According to whom.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
10447 posts
Posted on 3/2/26 at 5:00 pm to
34 servicemen died in the attack on the USS Liberty. Should the US have bombed Israel in retaliation?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 5:02 pm to
Yes.


But they didn’t, unfortunately. So because people who were in charge then who are dead now failed, we should continue to fail into the future?
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
10447 posts
Posted on 3/2/26 at 5:04 pm to
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So because people who were in charge then who are dead now failed, we should continue to fail into the future?


So what is the official purpose for this attack on Iran?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8212 posts
Posted on 3/2/26 at 5:38 pm to
The simple fact that you have been on this board for over 20 years and are in your mid 60s and you can't even see the significance of this action is very disturbing and does not speak well of your intelligence

I'm sure you never had to look the families of the military people that were blown up in the late 70s even though you were alive for it you probably did not care about the loss of life nor do you care about the continuing loss of life and the acts of terror
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8212 posts
Posted on 3/2/26 at 5:43 pm to
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boomers have got to be one of the only generations in history that weren’t ever asked to fight a war of any kind in any way.


Vietnam???
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28954 posts
Posted on 3/2/26 at 5:51 pm to
Over 170,000 men were granted conscientious objector status.

The average age of US soldiers in Vietnam was 19. This means that while yes some boomers did serve in Vietnam being the oldest ones born between 1946-1951ish a large majority of the generation did not as it is said it runs through 1964.

You can say I was wrong to a degree, and ill own that, but I still think the point largely stands due to the 2 mitigation factors mentioned above
This post was edited on 3/2/26 at 5:53 pm
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