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Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:06 am to lake chuck fan
I say no refunds unless a detailed audit proves you didn't pass it on.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:07 am to meansonny
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ont like any taxes. Tariffs included. But give me the option of a tariff versus an income tax and I will take the tariff 100% of the
I hate taxes too but realize the need to run a government
My favored tax scheme is to use a consumption taxation system. Tariffs are a part of that
What I don’t like is arbitrary application of taxes and that’s what happened here. Trump did it without any consent and without a balanced offset. He cost me more on imported products both as a business owner and consumer.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:07 am to SDVTiger
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What do you think your refund amount will be?
Oh yeah, for this insanely retarded question:
I'm not due a refund because I wasn't a business illegally charged a tariff.
But it will be pretty fricking easy for those businesses to add up how much they paid and total their refund amount, won't it?
I'll bet even you could mentally handle that task.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:08 am to wackatimesthree
So you cant really answer the question
How did i know you would use 800bil (the CNN report you saw
)
Maybe you are Rogerthecuckers alter cause he would always say the same stupid shite
What a clown
How did i know you would use 800bil (the CNN report you saw
) Maybe you are Rogerthecuckers alter cause he would always say the same stupid shite
What a clown
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:08 am to lake chuck fan
Ah yes. When I want my applied economic theory, I always turn to Ann Coulter.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:08 am to BeeFense5
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Cool. Then repay the consumers.
So, you want Trump to issue the rebates?
That he's been talking about since October/November?
#Cool
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:09 am to BeeFense5
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The government Keeping illegally seized funds is never acceptable.
It’s absolutely alarming how so many cheer it on like a football game
No more alarming than people cheering for legal taxation. At the level modern societies pay now, that is quite alarming that many are cheering for more.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:10 am to TrueTiger
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I say no refunds unless a detailed audit proves you didn't pass it on.
1. You can't prove that a business "passed on" an expense. Why? because businesses have a right to set prices wherever they want for whatever reason they want and change them at any time they want.
2. Again, these two things have nothing to do with each other in the context of a refund on an illegally charged tax. If you were charged twice for your property tax last year, you are owed a refund, regardless of whether you "passed on" the tax by decreasing discretionary spending that you otherwise would have engaged in.
It's a non-sequitur.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:10 am to SlidellCajun
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He cost me more on imported products both as a business owner and consumer.
Hell... if you are giving me a personal choice of what to tax first in order to run a government, that would exactly be my first choice.
You prefer consumption taxes.
Would you prioritize consumption of imports too in a world where you get to prioritize first tax draws?
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:12 am to wackatimesthree
Good points. No refunds then.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:14 am to SDVTiger
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So you cant really answer the question
On the contrary, Slow Dumb Vagina Tiger, I've answered it twice. With an exact number.
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How did i know you would use 800bil
Probably because that's the consensus. CNN didn't make that number up, they just reported it.
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blah, blah, blah
Ahhh, Slow Dumb Vagina Tiger, sorry you're having a hard time convincing people of your usual bullshite right now (which again, I am convinced is your actual job). Don't worry, though, these tariffs will be out of the news cycle soon and populists will act like them vehemently denying that consumers paid tariffs for a year, then reversing themselves on a dime when it suited them and saying that, yeah, consumers DO pay the tariffs, so that means the government doesn't have to pay anybody back, never happened.
Just wait it out, is my advice.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:15 am to TrueTiger
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No refunds then.
How do you get to that conclusion?
The county charges you twice for your property tax. No refund? Why?
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:16 am to wackatimesthree
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The problem that smooth brains can't factor is that nobody really "eats" anything. The tariffs either get paid by the consumer, or the employees who would otherwise get raises don't get them, or jobs that would otherwise be available don't exist, or the company becomes less profitable, which shows up in its stock value, etc., etc., etc.
This is true unfortunately. I’m in sales, but close friends with a couple of our owners. When we have to “eat” a 4-8% loss because of tariffs it has to come from somewhere. It causes hiring freezes, inability for expansion, bonus freezes, etc. That affects American jobs.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:16 am to i am dan
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How are they illegal?
Because the court ruled that they were.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:18 am to lake chuck fan
Corporations would never double dip like that!! fricking dumbass
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:22 am to wackatimesthree
These taxes aren't comparable.
Property taxes are very clear, a double charges a mathematical error. That error was improper at the moment it was levied.
The tariffs are very complex. it wasn't known when they were levied that there were any errors or that it was in violation of law.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:26 am to wackatimesthree
I believe the issue wasn’t the illegality of the tariff as much as the rationale for charging the tariffs. By what rule did the President say he would impose the tariffs. Tariffs are not illegal. And now the President is saying he will call the tariffs on a different rule. He is within his legal authority. People are too focused on a win or loss on a left pocket right pocket question. The tariffs don’t and won’t go away. Some on this board just want to scream “Ha! Gotcha!” The President has done some really great things. He has done a LOT of things in a short time. It is what I voted for. Nothing is perfect. Not my wife, my kids, or my President. But I am proud of all and proud of my country.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:28 am to wackatimesthree
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On the contrary, Slow Dumb Vagina Tiger
When you have to lower youself to these types of posts it just proves me right
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With an exact number.
Its a made up number by libtards. But your claim is you paid 800bil
I appreciate your sad attempt
Answer this question then.
How much more do you personal pay in taxes cause of tariffs on daily used products?
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:29 am to skidry
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Where do you think the money ultimately comes from? Is there some lag until prices catch up, yes, but ultimately the people have to pay it.
And for those on the other side. The idea is that we are getting our asses kicked in a trade war. Tariffs are a weapon just like planes ships and bombs. If you want to win, we need to invest in the war.
I’m not saying we should or should not wage the war. What I’m saying is we have yet another national issue and the media is fricking the narrative up.
This pretty much mirrors my view on tariffs. To me, tariffs are primarily a tool to protect the US manufacturing/production capacity and to use as a tool to punish countries who we want to change some of their foreign policies/actions.
IF you are content to be a consumer nation, then go ahead and remove all tariffs so other countries can drive our own industry base into oblivion.
To me, that is the mindset of a wannabe welfare state. In the end, we will rely on the foreign victors to provide that welfare - and they may just put us all in a gulag and feed us leftover rice.
But by all means = "Trump wants to balance our trade status but HELL NO - TRUMP BAD!!!! "
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