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re: For you Christians out there defending the vaccine religiously - think about this
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:42 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:42 am to theunknownknight
And the beast dances on
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Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:48 am to theunknownknight
So you are just going to sit there and do nothing?
Posted on 8/14/21 at 3:03 am to theunknownknight
I had a family member get the vaccine earlier this year and they passed shortly after. If there is one person that I met in my life that is going to heaven, I guarantee you it was that person, that I have no doubt.
I do think what’s going on is a pushing of boundaries that could lead to prophecy being fulfilled, but it’s not the vaccine itself.
I do think what’s going on is a pushing of boundaries that could lead to prophecy being fulfilled, but it’s not the vaccine itself.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 3:05 am to Rip N Lip
What should people do?
Posted on 8/14/21 at 3:06 am to 1BamaRTR
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Catholics north of the Mason-Dixon/out west are not.
Many of them are also non-practicing. They just call themselves Catholic because that’s how they were raised but no longer really believe
True. My best family friends are this way. I consider them like 2nd parents to me, but they are all over the place with what they believe.
Never go to church, but required their kids to get married in a Catholic church.
They will allow me to visit them because I'm vaccinated and live in the area, but won't allow my sister to visit them because she lives in California, even though she's vaccinated.
They blame "redneck Republicans" who don't get vaccinated for the current rise in infections, even though two-thirds of the black community refuse to get jabbed. And we have so many "redneck Republicans" in Chicago, like Jussie alluded to.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 3:11 am to Padme
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What should people do?
Stop living in fear. Become more self sufficient. Stand up for your rights.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 3:12 am to sledgehammer
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I don’t understand why many Christians are following along with everything. Even Franklin Graham has urged Christians to get the vaccine. How can they not see how closely this resembles the book of Revelation?
*Can't buy or sell without the mark.
Can't go to restaurants, attend colleges, work at some jobs without vaccine.
*Has a name and a number of the beast.
Name is COVID, number is 19.
*Causeth all, small and great, rich and poor, to receive the mark.
"We need to eradicate this virus NOW." Get vaccinated. (What if I've already had the Wuhan Coronavirus? Doesn't matter, get the jab.)
This whole psyop is nothing but conditioning...and I'm still worried about the graphene oxide in the jabs and it's link to 5G. Sorry, we just have no idea what's going on.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 4:54 am to mouton
quote:Yes, I have noticed that about you.
Vaccine obsessed.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 5:20 am to TNTigerman
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By the time it actually becomes the Mark of the Beast - and it absolutely will - we true believers won't be here and be forced to make the choice. In the meantime, we have to trust that the Lord will watch over us. That's all.
"Beloved, think it not strange of the fiery trial that shall try your faith...".
BTW, I hope you are right.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 6:09 am to theunknownknight
I don't see much of this myself. I got the vaccine, but I certainly won't push it on others. To each his own. And, I just use my own common sense with the masking, I mask up if I'm gonna be in a "crowd", and don't if I'm not. As for others, I don't care.
But if the gov starts declaring people can't buy gas or groceries etc, if they are not vaccinated, then the gov has a problem.
But if the gov starts declaring people can't buy gas or groceries etc, if they are not vaccinated, then the gov has a problem.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 6:16 am to loogaroo
The church has been a huge disappointment from the beginning of the covid debacle.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 7:44 am to theunknownknight
I’m a Christian, vaccinated and a staunch defendant of it being a personal choice and no one else’s business.
I do not understand comparing it to receiving the mark of the beast as outlined in Revelation 13. As far as I know, the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:15-18) has not yet occurred which is a precursor to the end times. I believe we are closer now than ever before but not quite there yet. Until then, I will continue to have faith in God and living the life He has blessed me with!
I do not understand comparing it to receiving the mark of the beast as outlined in Revelation 13. As far as I know, the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:15-18) has not yet occurred which is a precursor to the end times. I believe we are closer now than ever before but not quite there yet. Until then, I will continue to have faith in God and living the life He has blessed me with!
Posted on 8/14/21 at 7:55 am to theunknownknight
Grow up dumbass get a vaccine because it is a smart thing to do, but tear up your card. No one but yourself and your doctor needs to know your vaccine status unless you are in the military or you are starting college and are going to live on campus
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:03 am to theunknownknight
For those confused re-read the New Testament. I grew up UPC. The current events have been preached for decades. We were taught the Holy Spirt would open our eyes and in large part that’s why these events were already known.
“He has ears to hear, let him hear” Mark 4:9.
The other piece that is critical to have an opinion on is the Rapture. Before or after tribulation? I was taught afterwards. To many scriptures to quote.
Christians are the new Jew. Get ready…..
“He has ears to hear, let him hear” Mark 4:9.
The other piece that is critical to have an opinion on is the Rapture. Before or after tribulation? I was taught afterwards. To many scriptures to quote.
Christians are the new Jew. Get ready…..
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:12 am to theunknownknight
I’m a Christian and support the Vaccine.
I just recently received my Vaxx shots…I’m a wait and see results type.
I can’t find a legitimate argument against the Vaxx when looking at hospitalizations (vax vs Unvaxx). That’s why I decided to get it.
Now, I’m 1000% against any Mandate or someone being forced under the Fear of Termination on getting the Vaxx. Those businesses should be sued by enormous class action lawsuits.
But don’t let Pride/stubbornness stop you from getting the Vaccine. Ive said 100s of times, I won’t be forced, it’s my choice…so I get it. Now, take any mandate or fear of termination out of the equation…then look at Hospitalizations of Vax vs Unvax…what legitimate argument do you have against it? In the past, I never once questioned the Vaccines for my kids when they were born… actually ridiculed the “anti-Vaxx” community over the years lol.
The politicization of the Vaccine has killed common sense. I support getting it Bc abs think all should, but that’s your choice…shouldn’t be forced. But make the decision of results, not “you won’t tell me or force me”.
I do find the Dynamic of showing “proof of Vaxx” very interesting.
Proof of ID to vote, supported by Conservatives…called racist by DEMs
Proof of Vaxx, supported by DEMs (some how not racist), pisses conservatives off.
I just recently received my Vaxx shots…I’m a wait and see results type.
I can’t find a legitimate argument against the Vaxx when looking at hospitalizations (vax vs Unvaxx). That’s why I decided to get it.
Now, I’m 1000% against any Mandate or someone being forced under the Fear of Termination on getting the Vaxx. Those businesses should be sued by enormous class action lawsuits.
But don’t let Pride/stubbornness stop you from getting the Vaccine. Ive said 100s of times, I won’t be forced, it’s my choice…so I get it. Now, take any mandate or fear of termination out of the equation…then look at Hospitalizations of Vax vs Unvax…what legitimate argument do you have against it? In the past, I never once questioned the Vaccines for my kids when they were born… actually ridiculed the “anti-Vaxx” community over the years lol.
The politicization of the Vaccine has killed common sense. I support getting it Bc abs think all should, but that’s your choice…shouldn’t be forced. But make the decision of results, not “you won’t tell me or force me”.
I do find the Dynamic of showing “proof of Vaxx” very interesting.
Proof of ID to vote, supported by Conservatives…called racist by DEMs
Proof of Vaxx, supported by DEMs (some how not racist), pisses conservatives off.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 8:20 am
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:21 am to ApexTiger
Unfortunately, I know a bunch of believers who buy into the mandates. It is very sad
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:00 am to Bryno1960
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I’m a Christian, vaccinated and a staunch defendant of it being a personal choice and no one else’s business.
I agree that it’s not the MOB, but it’s a precursor that is conditioning people in preparation for the MOB. Having the vaccine isn’t going to make you any less of a Christian, but I choose not to take for a few reasons:
1. The risks outweigh the benefits. Vaccine has proven to be ineffective, but it has injured and killed people.
2. I’m not taking anything that the government is trying to force on people. You don’t tell me what I have to do when it comes to my health.
3. This is vaccine is not the MOB, but it is a parallel to it and me choosing not to take it is representative of the same choice I would make with the MOB if I were here, which I won’t be.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:09 am to FlexDawg
#3 true, good point, we may not be around for MOB, but if it doesn’t make any sense to get the Vax, you might view it as an act of faith to parallel the same decision. It seems that the vax is a precursor, but the flip side is how true Cristians show leadership with this precursor, perhaps show the way for the next generation.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:32 am to Kolbysfan
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Rapture. Before or after tribulation? I was taught afterwards.
If you’re right then that means children and Christians(saved during age of grace) will be here to get the mark and be sent to hell. Didn’t realize children could go to hell and Christians(saved during age of grace) could lose their salvation and go to hell.
The teachings you were taught twisted scripture to have a different meaning.
The tribulation(aka Jacobs trouble) is the 70th week of Daniels prophecy and is meant to bring the Jews to Christ. They rejected him the first time, so they are being given another opportunity. Unfortunately, it’s going to take them initially being deceived by the antichrist to wake up and realize that their real messiah came 2000 years ago.
Why would Christ allow his bride (the church) to go through Gods wrath being poured out on the earth when he has never allowed such a thing him history? Noah and his family were the only righteous people on earth and they got to ride out Gods first wrath. Same situation with Lot and his family at Sodom and Gomorrah. And before you say “well, we’ve been here all along dealing without the the horrors in this world”. Brother, God pouring out his wrath is totally different than anything anyone has ever had to deal with in history.
There will be Christians during the tribulation, but they will have became Christians during that time after the rapture. They will also have to endure a different standard than the church age. They will have to potentially die or do whatever it takes to not receive the mark. In order to actually be saved during that time, you have to endure until the end.
Many ignorant people say pre trib rapture concept didn’t exist until Darby, but that is 100% incorrect and it can be proven. Before the book burning and censorship by the Catholic Church during the dark ages, you had the early church fathers who believed in and are quoted as believing the pre trib rapture. One that comes to mind is Irenaeus (130-202 AD). He personally knew and learned from the apostle John. Many others can be found quoting belief in pre trib rapture here: LINK
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 10:34 am
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:50 am to FlexDawg
Good post, Flex.
I personally never cared about the Darby argument, he simply read the scriptures and came to a novel conclusion (for the time). "Sola Fide" was a novelty for well over a thousand years, and realistically was a novelty in the first century!
I somewhat agree that it is hard to see for many Christians, but over time, it becomes clearer and clearer. Lots of types and allusions to it throughout the scriptures. Not so much Noah and family going through the Flood as Enoch being taken before it.
I personally never cared about the Darby argument, he simply read the scriptures and came to a novel conclusion (for the time). "Sola Fide" was a novelty for well over a thousand years, and realistically was a novelty in the first century!
I somewhat agree that it is hard to see for many Christians, but over time, it becomes clearer and clearer. Lots of types and allusions to it throughout the scriptures. Not so much Noah and family going through the Flood as Enoch being taken before it.
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