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re: How long before we send in the ground troops?
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:23 am to BOHICAMAN
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:23 am to BOHICAMAN
quote:Strikes began on the Saturday of Shabbat Zachor. I would imagine that was going to be the case regardless.
The original plan was to strike the night following the initial bombing that killed Iranian leadership.
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Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:24 am to AUCom96
quote:Trump isn't Bush. That couldn't be any more frickin apparent.
Not a fan of history, I see.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:26 am to IMSA_Fan
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I honestly don’t see how the US gets the regime change they want without putting boots on the ground. If the US doesn’t - the Chinese will play the long game and flood the country with capital
1. We are not putting boots on the ground.
2. The Iranian people do not want the Islamist in control any longer.
3. Once a new regime is in place in Iran then the nuclear program is dead and sanctions will be lifted. West Taiwan will then be forced to pay market price for oil and gas from Iran. I do not see how a future non-Islamist Iranian government would want to sell West Taiwan oil at a discount or buy more of its military equipment after its dismal performance against western stuff. So let ChiComs try to play the long game.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:28 am to BOHICAMAN
Iran and specially Tehran can't be attacked by ground. They're surrounded by mountains.
Any "ground" attack would be small special forces units dropping by helos.
Any "ground" attack would be small special forces units dropping by helos.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:30 am to BOHICAMAN
If we put troops on the ground and this drags out we're going to get slaughtered in midterms. Gas is up again and the stock market is taking a hit.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:33 am to LB84
The geopolitical risk in this is if we don’t fill the power vacuum China will. China knows the American people have zero appetite for another drawn out Middle Eastern conflict and will be ready to pounce with military support and capital if we leave the door open. Thus, I’m not overly sure what the administration’s play is here. There isn’t even a natural pro-western candidate within Iran that would be credible internally and meet America’s goals in this conflict
This post was edited on 3/3/26 at 10:36 am
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:34 am to IMSA_Fan
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The geopolitical risk in this is if we don’t fill the power vacuum China will. China knows the American people have zero appetite for another drawn out Middle Eastern conflict and will be ready to pounce if we leave the door open
While not ideal, China running Iran would be better than the current regime that funds and trains proxies all over the region.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:37 am to StrongOffer
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Trump isn't Bush.
WTF does that mean? You want regime change, you have to take ground. Dumping ordinance and running won't do it. Think Israel will do it? Get ready for a fricking religious war in the middle east. Once Israel starts quickly getting their asses handed to them, even if we pulled back, we're back in to keep nukes out of it.
Trump is about as stupid as Bush to do this, even if the motivations and execution was slightly different.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:38 am to AUCom96
Ah, sorry. Didn't realize I was responding to a retard.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:40 am to BOHICAMAN
Trump is not sending troops on the ground.. let Israel do that shite. Trump knows his bae is totally against a long war and especially a war with our boots on the ground. Now he might send in a special force or something which is different in my opinion
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:42 am to FLTech
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Trump is not sending troops on the ground.. let Israel do that shite. Trump knows his bae is totally against a long war and especially a war with our boots on the ground.
Israel isn’t going to do that.
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Now he might send in a special force or something which is different in my opinion
Why? And what do you think SOF forces alone can accomplish in Iran to meet our goals of regime change?
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:42 am to BOHICAMAN
SOCOM assets are probably already there or will be soon.
Anything more than that will depend on how long it takes to eradicate the missile threat to the surrounding countries, permanently destroy the radical cleric leadership network, and neuter or flip the military and IRGC.
I think once that happens, and a friendly resistance is identified, the next steps will be to provide weapons for the Iranians to take measures into their own hands and form a popular uprising to complete the regime change. I see boots on the ground to protect the weapon supply drops and make sure they get into the correct hands.
Anything more than that will depend on how long it takes to eradicate the missile threat to the surrounding countries, permanently destroy the radical cleric leadership network, and neuter or flip the military and IRGC.
I think once that happens, and a friendly resistance is identified, the next steps will be to provide weapons for the Iranians to take measures into their own hands and form a popular uprising to complete the regime change. I see boots on the ground to protect the weapon supply drops and make sure they get into the correct hands.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:43 am to BOHICAMAN
To instill a cultural change and reverse the Arabization of Iran, it would take decades of humanitarian effort and ground troop presence to achieve that. There’s still a huge chunk of the Iranian population that supports the regime and would gladly welcome a new regime leader.
It’s not as simple as taking out the leaders and expecting the country to change for the better. Anyone who honestly believes that is insanely naive.
It’s not as simple as taking out the leaders and expecting the country to change for the better. Anyone who honestly believes that is insanely naive.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:44 am to StrongOffer
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We'll let Iran figure it out. We just put the fear of God into anyone taking over. They will know they will work with us or die.
Exactly. Bombing will continue until morale improves and they are our friends.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:45 am to StrongOffer
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Ah, sorry. Didn't realize I was responding to a retard.
And you remain as profound as a three day old half-eaten eggroll.
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Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:47 am to cajuntiger1010
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If the US doesn’t - the Chinese will play the long game and flood the country with capital
No boots will go on the ground lol. This will be over in 2 weeks
China will play the long game though. They will just wait for a democrat president again
By over do you mean the regime has been toppled and the Persian people are forming a new government or do you mean the US declares victory, ceases military operations and tells the Islamic Regime, there's more where that came from if you like the FAFO game?
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:48 am to PJinAtl
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and a friendly resistance is identified
You know... like Osama Bin Laden!
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:48 am to FLTech
I could see it on a limited basis for a bunch of different reasons. In fact, I'd be surprised if it's not already happening with special forces/CIA/hit squads/high value targets, etc.
Hopefully though, this is the Israeli responsibility. It's their existential crisis and you know they are itching for it.
Hopefully though, this is the Israeli responsibility. It's their existential crisis and you know they are itching for it.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:52 am to IMSA_Fan
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honestly don’t see how the US gets the regime change they want without putting boots
You talking USA boots are any other countries boots?
Also, I do se how the US gets regime change without putting US boots on the ground. That said I can also see that while it might not be necessary we could see covert ops.
Once the big targets are all struck and the only assets the IRGC has left is small arms or even before, I could see sniper teams sent in to take them out as they patrol. Or something along the lines of our people inside to help groups of Iranians fight back sort of like the French underground during WW2.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:54 am to Lsupimp
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In fact, I'd be surprised if it's not already happening with special forces/CIA/hit squads/high value targets, etc.
That was happening weeks if not months before we started. Not the hit, but the tracking and the targeting.
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