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re: ICE Agent reportedly suffered internal bleeding from being hit by SUV
Posted on 1/14/26 at 11:55 am to Houag80
Posted on 1/14/26 at 11:55 am to Houag80
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Likewise. I tripped over the dog, landed on my back and pissed blood for 3 days.
I'd love to say that mine wasn't from fisticuffs in my younger days. But I'd be lying.
I certainly gave better than I got on that occasion though.
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 11:57 am to Harry Boutte
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I don't get why so many people want civil servants killing citizens in the streets.
You have it backwards. I want citizens to not attempt to flee lawfully detainment and use deadly force to escape the consequences of their actions.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 11:59 am to wackatimesthree
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I think it's a mistake personally, but the motive is obvious. Half the country's idiots—regardless of the fact that there is video that shows the guy being hit—refuse to admit it. We've got some of those here.
I think they are realizing they messed up supporting him so now they have to go all in.
The reality is, it doesn’t matter if she made contact or not. Shooting her doesn’t stop a moving car (ie this doesn’t prevent the danger to him) and the moment the first shot was fired he was already out of the way, much less the following shots. Not to mention he was already going for his gun before the car moved forward as indicated by his cell phone switching hands during recording.
The key to self defense, which you guys somehow don’t realize, isn’t whether or not the car made contact. It’s about when the shots were fired, and if the response was reasonable to stop the threat. Given that shots happened when he was no longer at risk, and that shooting the driver won’t stop a moving car, he loses both points.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 11:59 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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At a couple of mph, it is certainly POSSIBLE, but at that speed you are more likely to be seriously-annoyed than seriously-injured,
You never know. There's a lot of sensitive organs in a human body. A stiff liver punch can frick you up. Lacerate a spleen, bruise a kidney, etc. How about you stand in front of an accelerating SUV and see what happens.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:01 pm to SpecialK_88
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and if the response was reasonable to stop the threat
Link?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:02 pm to BBONDS25
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When an officer reasonably believes he or others are in imminent danger of great bodily harm you neutralize the threat.
There was no imminent danger of great bodily harm when he killed her, the danger had passed. As a matter of fact, he put more people in danger when he killed her and the car kept moving out of control.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:03 pm to Smeg
"I want citizens to not attempt to flee lawfully detainment and use deadly force to escape the consequences of their actions"
bonus points if they just choose to not insert themselves into a law enforcement situation in the first place.
bonus points if they just choose to not insert themselves into a law enforcement situation in the first place.
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:03 pm to Harry Boutte
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There was no imminent danger of great bodily harm when he killed her, the danger had passed.
This is only a guess by you.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:05 pm to BBONDS25
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So he got a bruise due to his lack of training and standing in front of an suv like a dumbass
Fify
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:05 pm to the808bass
quote:No, it is his evaluation of the evidence available to date.
There was no imminent danger of great bodily harm when he killed her, the danger had passed.quote:
This is only a guess by you.
Your evaluation is different. That is why we have juries.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:08 pm to Smeg
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I want citizens to not attempt to flee lawfully detainment and use deadly force to escape the consequences of their actions.
Me too.
But she wasn't using deadly force at the moment she was killed by the state.
I don't think the civil servant should have killed that citizen. The bar for the government killing citizens in the street should be FAR higher. Remember, this is the same government that can't run a post office. Do we really want them making these kinds of life and death decisions?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:09 pm to RollTide1987
they are losing me here with this bs
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:09 pm to BBONDS25
No, it’s possible. Ross certainly didn’t, but yes it’s possible.
If he had any legitimate injuries it would’ve been headline news days ago and the sources wouldn’t be anonymous. But just go ahead and memory hole that, just like you do everything else….
If he had any legitimate injuries it would’ve been headline news days ago and the sources wouldn’t be anonymous. But just go ahead and memory hole that, just like you do everything else….
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:09 pm to Nosevens
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Internal bleeding could be heavy contusions?
Which would still corroborate that he was assaulted with a deadly weapon.
I don’t even let myself be sucked into these discussions though; it was a good shoot whether or not the car hit him.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:10 pm to Ag Zwin
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And, exactly how much force do you think a mid-range SUV is going to generate with one foot of acceleration from a standing stop?
You mean if she wasnt stopped and continued to press on the gas past that first foot? I'd imagine it would probably hurt pretty bad.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:10 pm to wookalar1013
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Poor widdle guy got an ouchie. Good thing he shot that scary middle aged woman in the face 3 times. We’re all very lucky to have survived her rampage
Grow up.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:11 pm to the808bass
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This is only a guess by you.
He shot three times, twice from the side. The first shot may have been warranted, but apparently didn't kill her as he fired two more shots from the side. Clearly he could have let her go, and both would be alive today.
Well, let's set aside for the moment that she was a woman driver with all the associated risks that entails in and of itself.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:13 pm to _Hurricane_
Shall we hit you with an SUV in a similar manner and see how you feel? Why do I feel like you won’t?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:13 pm to Smeg
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Narrative will change from "he wasn't hit" to "killing someone because they bruised you is an over reaction."
They're now going to shift it to the severity of the bruise.
Complete.
Fuc$<_g.
Idiots.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:16 pm to Harry Boutte
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but apparently didn't kill her as he fired two more shots from the side.
You know the first shot didn’t kill her because he fired two more?
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