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re: Impressive support for Intelligent Design
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:14 pm to TexasForever81
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:14 pm to TexasForever81
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Christ affirmed Genesis as it was given.
And retold many many times before being recorded and then translated to hell and back across multiple variants of several languages, at that.
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:15 pm to wackatimesthree
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People who say stuff like you just said are either ignorant of what the scientific consensus says about the origin of the universe, the origin of life on Earth, and the math applied to the probability that something like DNA arose by chance, or they are ignorant of what the Bible is saying.
I’m not ignorant of any of those things.
No one is saying anything happened by chance. My suggestion was that God created the earth and life on it——just not in six days or with two humans and some animals in a park.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:16 pm to Flats
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That all depends on the likelihood of life developing randomly from single cells over 4 billion years ago. Is there a plausible mechanism? I'm not talking about proving which mechanism it was, I'm talking about not even having a hypothesis.
I’ve said I’m fine with the theory being that God is/was that mechanism. What I don’t get is why religious types reject that, too?
ETA: And after other responses, I’ll pose that question for people who don’t hold a literal translation of Genesis.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:18 pm to RebelExpress38
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One neuron had over 5,000 connection points
That the one that connects the males testicles to the brain.
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Some axons had coiled themselves into tight whorls for completely unknown reasons
The female equivalent.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:19 pm to Decatur
If at any point it exists in any form then at some point it was created.
Now what created it must have always existed.
Now what created it must have always existed.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:20 pm to Decatur
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Versus someone snapping their fingers and everything appeared in seven days ?
Tell me you have never read The Holy Bible, without telling me you have never read The Holy Bible.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:21 pm to RebelExpress38
Every single atom in our bodies was manufactured inside a star..not by some magic trick by a fictional old guy with a beard. Frick off with the mythical BS already
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:22 pm to geoag58
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If at any point it exists in any form then at some point it was created. Now what created it must have always existed.
Good luck getting Rex to answer that.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:24 pm to Indefatigable
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I’ve said I’m fine with the theory being that God is/was that mechanism. What I don’t get is why religious types reject that, too?
Talking about single cell --->> human, right?
Because it makes no sense... And, if you believe in God, as a Christian, you believe the Bible is the word of God. Nowhere in the Bible is anything like that.
That's my take, anyway.
I've read some ID stuff in the past, it seems there is room for science and faith- just probably not of the Darwinian variety.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:25 pm to Indefatigable
quote:Your assumption is that God did not preserve His own revelation, and that Jesus didn't know any better.quote:And retold many many times before being recorded and then translated to hell and back across multiple variants of several languages, at that.
Christ affirmed Genesis as it was given.
Christians believe that God preserved His word and that Jesus, as God, knew what that revelation was, and He affirmed it as true.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:26 pm to RebelExpress38
The simulation didn't design itself.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:26 pm to Boodis Man
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Every single atom in our bodies was manufactured inside a star
What made the star?
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:27 pm to SallysHuman
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Because it makes no sense... And, if you believe in God, as a Christian, you believe the Bible is the word of God. Nowhere in the Bible is anything like that.
So…you’re one of the literal translation people. In no way could the creation narrative have been a parable or story to explain that God created the universe?
If everything was created out of thin air in less than a week, how do we have evidence of life and natural processes that occurred millions/tens/hundreds of millions of years before Homo sapiens?
Genesis doesn’t mention the Neanderthals either, but we know they were around before us and during our early presence on earth.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:27 pm to wackatimesthree
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I found the guy who doesn't know anything about science or the Bible.
you found a guy whose opinion differs from yours
if you think you're take is the absolute correct one, you're extremely naive
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:28 pm to wackatimesthree
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LOL.
No, it's actually the (obvious) most likely conclusion of what science has shown in three areas of science over the past 110ish years:
1. The origin of the universe
2. The origin of life
3. DNA
Absolutely not. But this is coming from a guy referencing Hoyle in 2026. Can you give me an overview of the evidence, without using AI, on DNA evidence for intelligent design? Be specific if you could.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:28 pm to Boodis Man
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Every single atom in our bodies was manufactured inside a star
The matter that created the star, where did that come from?
If at any point nothing existed, then there would be nothing to cause any matter to come into existence. The fact that matter exists says that something caused that matter to come into existence. And the causer, necessarily, has always existed.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:28 pm to FooManChoo
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Your assumption is that God did not preserve His own revelation, and that Jesus didn't know any better. Christians believe that God preserved His word and that Jesus, as God, knew what that revelation was, and He affirmed it as true.
And nowhere in that Word does God or Jesus say that everything in the Bible or God’s teaching is literal. Hell, parables were an enormous part of Jesus’ teachings on earth.
And god must have really soured on us, because we don’t live to be 900 years old anymore like we used to.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:28 pm to geoag58
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If at any point it exists in any form then at some point it was created.
According to the law of conservation of mass there is no creation or destruction of matter, only change. Might be hard for the human mind to wrap itself around it but that’s what science tells us.
I’d welcome someone to help me out if I’m getting this wrong.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:30 pm to Indefatigable
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I’ve never understood why the religious zealots refuse the notion that God created life through the natural processes we’ve discovered/hypothesized.
Life developing from single cells over 4 billion years isn’t really any more of a stretch than God just plopping down a single man and woman in a thicket somewhere.
The official view of Catholicism is that if science and Scripture don't jive it's because we've either misunderstood the science or misunderstood the scripture.
In a more simplistic view, Jesus was a carpenter. Why? Why not have him be the son of a wealthy man who doesn't have to work, or anything else really? Because the process is important. When you say someone is a carpenter, you picture them *making* something, not just standing next to the finished product.
Even in the creation story God doesn't just snap and create everything. He does pieces of daily throughout a week, and we also know a day is a thousand years and thousand years is a day to God, meaning that time has no meaning to him aka he likely did build (and possibly is still building onto) his creation and improving it as he goes.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:30 pm to Indefatigable
quote:You may be able to logically deduce a creator from natural revelation (studying creation, itself), but there is no way to know that God created the universe exactly as detailed in the Bible without special revelation (the Bible).
I’ve said I’m fine with the theory being that God is/was that mechanism. What I don’t get is why religious types reject that, too?
ETA: And after other responses, I’ll pose that question for people who don’t hold a literal translation of Genesis.
Someone who rejects the Bible can certainly attest to divinely-guided evolution, claiming that evolutionary theory seems to fit the mechanism for human origins and development of life on this planet, while also holding to a creator being the ultimate cause of that mechanism.
However, if one does believe that the Bible is God's divine word and revelation, then the theory of evolution as an explanation of human origins faces a some major theological problems that puts the theory in conflict with what seems to be clear teaching from God.
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