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re: Is a True Patriot
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:28 pm to geaux88
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:28 pm to geaux88
Judging by your expertise, what is your opinion on the federal budget? From a laymen's perspective, it seems entirety out of control from a fiscal standpoint. To me, the left doesn't want entitlements cut and the right doesn't want the military cut. But shouldn't everything be on the chopping block? It seems if money is spent more wisely, particularly as it relates to defense spending, then there would be no need to increase spending, even perhaps cut it. And concerning domestic spending, if more governing functions were handled at the state level and local rather than DC, then government itself would be more efficient, accountable, and more effective. And I'm all about the lowest taxes possible.
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Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:30 pm to Friedbrie
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One who agrees with everything the President does and says,
Concern troll
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:30 pm to geaux88
geaux88 wow, that is well written
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:43 pm to Friedbrie
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What I don't understand is this cult of personality many on this board have with Trump
It’s kinda the same feeling you have for Michael and it’s big eared wife
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:48 pm to Friedbrie
Hillary says that we have a right to protest the POTUS and we have a right to advocate for the things in which we believe.
Are you a fan of hers?
Are you a fan of hers?
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:51 pm to Champagne
Why the frick do I have to be a fan of Obama or Hillary? See, that's the kind of shite I'm talking about. I'm talking about issues, not politicians. I cannot stand politicians. I prefer statesman, or civil servants. And wtf is a concern troll?
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:52 pm to Friedbrie
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Judging by your expertise, what is your opinion on the federal budget? From a laymen's perspective, it seems entirety out of control from a fiscal standpoint.
Thanks for your civil response and what a great question and concern that I can see you have and I share that concern with you as well.
I have ZERO "expertise" on the federal budget, but I agree with you it is and has been out of control for many many years. I will concede that it appears President Trump has not addressed this issue.
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To me, the left doesn't want entitlements cut and the right doesn't want the military cut.
It seems to me that this has been the case for many decades now, to be honest, I will concede.
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But shouldn't everything be on the chopping block?
I'm not sure. I do know that in an uncertain world, and the way things evolve quickly in terms of geopolitical affairs, I'm going to admit to you I'm not really prepared to pare down our military and power projection capability. We must be prepared to respond to anything. That is the legacy we have had since 1945, with all of the mistakes we have made, but is the mantle we sit upon and must not give it up.
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It seems if money is spent more wisely, particularly as it relates to defense spending, then there would be no need to increase spending, even perhaps cut it.
If....If....If....Spending money more wisely on defense spending is contingent upon a complete revamp of the legislative branch and special interests. How do you suggest we start to tackle that? I'm with you in the basic sentiment, I really am, and I would venture to ascertain that most on this board would be as well. We could buy the SAME weapons and military and power projection capabilities as we have now for BILLIONS less if we cut out some waste. But how? Now I'm asking you.
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And concerning domestic spending, if more governing functions were handled at the state level and local rather than DC, then government itself would be more efficient, accountable, and more effective
I am 100% in agreement with you on this point! The Federal Government is for the most part a fat, bloated, indifferent and inefficient glob of goo that can do NOTHING, domestically speaking.
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. And I'm all about the lowest taxes possible.
Totally agree. Would love to have a beer or bev of choice with you!
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:55 pm to Friedbrie
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But I cannot say that I agree with the latest foreign policy decisions because I don't know enough to make a judgement.
Please do the country a favor and don't ever vote.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:03 pm to jamboybarry
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Concern troll noted
You phrased it more diplomatically than I would've.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:16 pm to geaux88
Both of your posts are 
all of that being said with superb intelligence, people skills, great leadership and experience...
I think if Trump rolled in our troops like elder and Dubya with CNN and MSNBC embedded; and shining lights on an amphib group storming the beach. In the ME or pick a nam any nam, you would call him out as I would.
See ya in the next life and we can watch HULU
The stomach flu this year sucks hairy balls or else I wouldn't have been bored enough to sign in and see your post.
all of that being said with superb intelligence, people skills, great leadership and experience... I think if Trump rolled in our troops like elder and Dubya with CNN and MSNBC embedded; and shining lights on an amphib group storming the beach. In the ME or pick a nam any nam, you would call him out as I would.
See ya in the next life and we can watch HULU
The stomach flu this year sucks hairy balls or else I wouldn't have been bored enough to sign in and see your post.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:18 pm to Friedbrie
ignore all posts but my BFF in another lives posts.
A Patriot has meaning in many ways.
A Patriot has meaning in many ways.
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:26 pm to Friedbrie
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Why the frick do I have to be a fan of Obama or Hillary? See, that's the kind of shite I'm talking about. I'm talking about issues, not politicians. I cannot stand politicians. I prefer statesman, or civil servants. And wtf is a concern troll?
You pussy
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:28 pm to cajunangelle
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Both of your posts are all of that being said with superb intelligence, people skills, great leadership and experience...
My lovely angelle, thanks! I don't know what got into me. I usually am profane and respond with a flamethrower. I just sensed somehow the OP was not a troll and deserved a true response in the interest of civil discourse, which is so rare these days, and which I admit I have abandoned for the most part.
p.s....the Hulu guide is pretty good!
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:33 pm to geaux88
I know. I agree. Too many that post here are arrogant and know it all and think only they are patriots-- is the truth. So they don't see what we saw in the OP.
Also they are used to trolls I will give them that...
I knew you always had all that in you though; that is why I appreciate the they can all DIAF EABODs and suck an aids dildo so much.
Also they are used to trolls I will give them that...
I knew you always had all that in you though; that is why I appreciate the they can all DIAF EABODs and suck an aids dildo so much.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:46 pm to Friedbrie
Well, he's actually doing or trying like a sumbitch to do everything he promised during his campaign despite heavy resistance from the left, GOPe, media, and foreign gov'ts. He the first President in my lifetime to do that. Promises made and promises kept. Economy booming, ISIS neutered, wall being built, taxes down, no wars started, renegotiating of shitty trade deals etc.
So, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until he gives me reason not to.
So, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until he gives me reason not to.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:48 pm to Friedbrie
You typed a lot but didn’t say much. What do you want?
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:50 pm to Friedbrie
quote:If social entitlements are cut, life becomes more difficult for a segment of the population unable(unwilling?) to work to support itself. As harsh as that might sound, there are alternatives to many welfare programs... consider the paradox of illegal immigrants working here. We have a branch of the government saying people absolutely need unemployment checks because they can't find work, and also demand that people from all over the world come in and perform unskilled labor.
From a laymen's perspective, it seems entirety out of control from a fiscal standpoint. To me, the left doesn't want entitlements cut and the right doesn't want the military cut. But shouldn't everything be on the chopping block? It seems if money is spent more wisely, particularly as it relates to defense spending, then there would be no need to increase spending, even perhaps cut i
Perhaps if the unskilled labor was done by Americans claiming they can't get a job, there wouldn't be such a huge expenditure on that. And then, those who truly do need assistance would be more easily supported.
On defense expenditures, there is no such alternative. The rest of the world is not walking in lockstep to our tune, it constantly pushes and pulls at us and each other. If we allow strategic assets to decline and become obsolete, we lose our advantage over the Chinese, Russians, and even our European allies. We lose this advantage, and we also see our influence lessened. We're currently the preeminent country in the world... if we cede that title, it won't go away, someone else will take it.
If you enjoy living in the best nation on Earth, you should not want to give that up, because some of your peaceful, secure, comfortable life is due to America's status.
Similarly, for cutting tactical expenditures, it would be criminal to not provide the best possible gear for our forces. The world is not a peaceful place, and not every engagement we face is one we initiate. You can be in harm's way without knowing it, and if you fail to provide the best in defense and counterstrike measures, then you're risking their lives... when you know that could be avoided.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:59 pm to Friedbrie
Agree vs Trust is a big difference. We will never know all the facts with the big decisions that all of our leaders have made. I'm trusting Trump. I have a stake with what he does in China, and it has not benefited me at all, but I trust him in the long run to do the right thing for us, even if it has a negative impact on my personal situation.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:01 pm to geaux88
Man, thanks for the response.
Just to provide some background of myself just as you offered, I currently work as a government auditor. My masters is in accounting and I'm working on my CPA. Most of my work has been with state agencies with federal work restricted to grants. I spent much of my life as a hard working blue collar worker who wondered where the hell is our taxpayer money going, especially considering I have a young family to take care of. Man, I can tell you I've personally seen enough waste, fraud, and abuse to talk about over many a beer.
The problem I see it, especially at the state level, and probably at the federal level, is there is no inherent reason for government itself to cut spending. Budgeting is not based on efficiency, but rather if the money is spent. So bureaucracy spends to ensure the same level of budgeting is maintained. I have seen some good work done on behalf of the taxpayer, but most is buried due to politics. I don't know how to get around the problems I've mentioned other than reducing the size of government, and therefore the size of budgets. This would take a sea-change both structurally and philosophically. This I believe would curtail domestic spending.
In terms of defense spending, IDK. I would personally like to look at the pentagon's books, but of course that will never happen. National defense is without a doubt the number one priority of the federal government, as it should. But you speak of force projection. The question is, with modern technology, can we provide adequate force projection without maintaining such a physical, thus capital intensive presence overseas, especially in Europe. Of course, Navy is essential to maintain trade routes, I speak mainly of land bases, boots on the ground, support, etc. And I often wonder what kind of controls, from an accounting, auditing, and risk based perspective, are in place as it relates to defense spending. From the outside looking in, it seems special interests have created potential conflict of interest regarding defense spending and padding ones pockets. This conflict of interest permeates through every level of government. Again, I've personally seen it at my level of work.
I apologize for the long winded response. I guess you can chalk it up to frustrations of my profession, and out of deep concerns for my kids future. I strongly believe that our current fiscal situation is the #1 threat to our national security, and therefore the future of our children.
Again, thanks!
Just to provide some background of myself just as you offered, I currently work as a government auditor. My masters is in accounting and I'm working on my CPA. Most of my work has been with state agencies with federal work restricted to grants. I spent much of my life as a hard working blue collar worker who wondered where the hell is our taxpayer money going, especially considering I have a young family to take care of. Man, I can tell you I've personally seen enough waste, fraud, and abuse to talk about over many a beer.
The problem I see it, especially at the state level, and probably at the federal level, is there is no inherent reason for government itself to cut spending. Budgeting is not based on efficiency, but rather if the money is spent. So bureaucracy spends to ensure the same level of budgeting is maintained. I have seen some good work done on behalf of the taxpayer, but most is buried due to politics. I don't know how to get around the problems I've mentioned other than reducing the size of government, and therefore the size of budgets. This would take a sea-change both structurally and philosophically. This I believe would curtail domestic spending.
In terms of defense spending, IDK. I would personally like to look at the pentagon's books, but of course that will never happen. National defense is without a doubt the number one priority of the federal government, as it should. But you speak of force projection. The question is, with modern technology, can we provide adequate force projection without maintaining such a physical, thus capital intensive presence overseas, especially in Europe. Of course, Navy is essential to maintain trade routes, I speak mainly of land bases, boots on the ground, support, etc. And I often wonder what kind of controls, from an accounting, auditing, and risk based perspective, are in place as it relates to defense spending. From the outside looking in, it seems special interests have created potential conflict of interest regarding defense spending and padding ones pockets. This conflict of interest permeates through every level of government. Again, I've personally seen it at my level of work.
I apologize for the long winded response. I guess you can chalk it up to frustrations of my profession, and out of deep concerns for my kids future. I strongly believe that our current fiscal situation is the #1 threat to our national security, and therefore the future of our children.
Again, thanks!
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:06 pm to Friedbrie
I don’t agree with Trump on everything. I think his recent vape restrictions and raising tobacco age to 21 is stupid, even though I haven’t smoked in 10+ years. The government deems you old enough to enter into legal contracts, vote, or enlist and be sent off to war at 18...but not smoke a cigarette
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