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re: Justice for Ashli Babbitt, Should Trump go for it?
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:06 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:06 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Mickey Goldmill
Approves shooting 127 pound unarmed women. Checks out.
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:28 pm to Lutcher Lad
If I was Trump I would never mention Jan. 6 again and hope no one else did, either…
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:33 pm to YouKnowImRight
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She was the first one to penetrate a barricaded doorway
She was the first one who pushed a piece of plexiglass (odd that the other windows were tempered and cracked) out of the moldings, then was shot in the neck and bled to death with a remarkable lack of blood present.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:34 pm to Lutcher Lad
Byrd's racist, murderous arse needs to be charged with 1st Degree Murder and Civil Rights violations.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:34 pm to Bunk Moreland
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And 99% of the right would have said she FAFO.
Honestly I’m still saying that. I don’t really care. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Did she deserve to be killed? No. But she put herself in that position. No one made her do that shite.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:37 pm to Nurbis
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I am not sure why you are not honest in that the reasoning for arguing her death was justified was because she was a white conservative Trump supporter.
a white conservative Trump supporter doing what? where was she? how did she get there? was it just her or was she with others?
god knows how but yall have somehow got it in your head that you can do absolutely anything you want, with no accountability, you lose your minds if we even suggest it
she was part of a mob that smashed their way into the Capital to stop Congress from certifying a Presidential election, youre lucky they didnt whip out a mini gun and turn the whole room into a red mist
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:42 pm to Lutcher Lad
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Justice for Ashli Babbitt
The best justice would be to lock CHP Lt. Michael Byrd in a room with Ashli's widower.
But yes, Byrd has never been criminally charged and the incident legally qualifies across the board for criminal homicide prosecution. Byrd completely ignored all universal "escalation of force" training and just went straight to "last resort".
Meanwhile, Derek Chauvin is surviving assassination attempts in maximum security prison because George Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose. I fricking hate what America is becoming.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:50 pm to Lutcher Lad
quote:Absolufrickinglutely.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt, Should Trump go for it?
Capitol police lied under oath to J6 cmte.
Make every black congressman kneel in the rotunda and say her name.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:52 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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An angry mob banging on the barricade trying to get through....a mob that is already breaking the law. This wasn't a typical 'trespassing' situation and you know it.
If you can show me where the shooting of unarmed people in an angry mob is justified then so be it. It certainly never applied during any of the BLM riots where buildings were burned, stores were looted, and innocent people were beaten and murdered.
Daniel Perry had a mob surround his car and a man with an AK approach his window. Was he given a pass because it was an angry mob and somebody was armed with a rifle? What about when the McCloskey's simply used firearms as a deterrent when an angry mob broke through their gate? Did they get a pass because it was an angry mob?
The president and vice president have argued that police killing armed people is not always justified.
And in Babbitt's case specifically, there was some guy casually walking down that hall right when Babbitt was shot. Armed police were standing right there on the side of the door with the mob. They were there next to Babbitt a second after she was shot. None of them felt a need to run for cover and open fire on all those people trying to get through the door.
Only one cop was treating it like it was a last-stand situation. The guy panicked and killed an unarmed woman. No different than the cop a few months ago who shot an unarmed woman for having a pot of boiling water. The only reason this is justified is that she was a white Trump supporter.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:56 pm to Mickey Goldmill
OK Goldmill then using your logic the Secret Service should have mowed every single protester in front of the White House down the night they had to take Trump down into the bunker because they were trying to break through onto the White House grounds, had injured Secret Service agents and were imminent threats to the safety of the President of the United States.
Can't have it both ways bud,
Can't have it both ways bud,
quote:
An angry mob banging on the barricade trying to get through....a mob that is already breaking the law. This wasn't a typical 'trespassing' situation and you know it.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:59 pm to TigerAxeOK
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the incident legally qualifies across the board for criminal homicide prosecution. Byrd completely ignored all universal "escalation of force" training and just went straight to "last resort".
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:59 pm to I20goon
quote:there some reason you included "black" in that, you piece of shite
Make every black congressman kneel in the rotunda and say her name.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:05 pm to MyNameIsTokyo
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god knows how but yall have somehow got it in your head that you can do absolutely anything you want, with no accountability, you lose your minds if we even suggest it
Not at all, I have said from the start she should have been cuffed and arrested. What I want is equal application of the law. I want equal accountability.
How many of the illegal immigrants who overran this barricade were shot? How many were even arrested? All they got was a pass to enter the country illegally.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:06 pm to antibarner
KILMEADE: Sunday it wasn’t the case. We had our own Leland Vittert reporting, no problem, it got dark, huge problem, he was attacked. And then the reports were they were so worried they brought you downstairs in the White House to a bunker. What could you tell me Sunday night — Sunday night was like for you and your family?
TRUMP: Well, it was a false report. I wasn’t down — I went down during the day, and I was there for a tiny little short period of time, and it was much more for an inspection, there was no problem during the day. The problem, I saw Leland got whacked pretty good, but that we during the night.
And this problem — these problems are during the night, not during the day. And I go down — I’ve gone down two or three times, all for inspection, and you go there. Someday you may need it, but you go there and I went down. I looked at it. It was during the day. It was not a problem, and I read about it like a big thing. There was never a problem. We never had a problem.
Nobody ever came close to giving us a problem. The Secret Service does an unbelievable job of maintaining control in the White House, and beyond the Secret Service we have a lot of other great people out there, including the DC Police and then, of course, on top of that after I saw the one evening, which was a little rough and it was certainly a rough on Leland, I think more so than anybody else. We brought in the — we brought in the troops.
TRUMP: Well, it was a false report. I wasn’t down — I went down during the day, and I was there for a tiny little short period of time, and it was much more for an inspection, there was no problem during the day. The problem, I saw Leland got whacked pretty good, but that we during the night.
And this problem — these problems are during the night, not during the day. And I go down — I’ve gone down two or three times, all for inspection, and you go there. Someday you may need it, but you go there and I went down. I looked at it. It was during the day. It was not a problem, and I read about it like a big thing. There was never a problem. We never had a problem.
Nobody ever came close to giving us a problem. The Secret Service does an unbelievable job of maintaining control in the White House, and beyond the Secret Service we have a lot of other great people out there, including the DC Police and then, of course, on top of that after I saw the one evening, which was a little rough and it was certainly a rough on Leland, I think more so than anybody else. We brought in the — we brought in the troops.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:11 pm to Nurbis
quote:in that picture at least, its people running away from security in an open space.
How many of the illegal immigrants who overran this barricade were shot? How many were even arrested? All they got was a pass to enter the country illegally.
that is not the same as running toward security in a closed cramped hallway
(edit: not disagreeing simply to disagree btw, if theres video of that or another angle with them coming at the guards, then yes I would assume they would open fire. I dont love it but its not unreasonable)
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:13 pm to Nurbis
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Last I checked, trespassing has never been a standard for lethal force.
Neither is firing a shotgun.
The point is, context matters.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:18 pm to YouKnowImRight
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I'm sorry, but this was a justified shooting. She was the first one to penetrate a barricaded doorway that they were trying to bust through. If they had been standing there chanting and he shot through the doorway, that's a different story.
It's reasonable to shoot someone "busting through a barricade"?
Does the officer have to show himself with his gun and give a lawful order not to "break through the barricade", or can he just fire away with impunity.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:18 pm to antibarner
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Secret Service should have mowed every single protester in front of the White House
"every single protester"
"in front of the White House"
in terms of defending yourself you understand that shooting one threat who has broken in is not the same as shooting an entire group who are standing outside, right?
jesus christ, this was your scenario, that you made up, and you still fricked it up
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:20 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Should they have just let them all through?
Should they have just shot everyone there? I mean, every one of them had gone through a barrier.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:21 pm to antibarner
lol that’s the worst mic drop I’ve ever seen
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