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Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:25 am to highbooost
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60K, which is avg seasonal FLU deaths
No it isn’t.
You are referring to the worst year since the last flu pandemic and calling it average.
It would be 3x the average death from ILI.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 3:26 am
Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:33 am to greygoose
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LOL! Grocery stores are packed. Home improvement stores are packed. You really think "social distancing" is having any real affect on th
Yes.
Unless you as an individual is going daily, it’s a world of difference between working in close quarters with people 8 hours a day, 5 hours a week.
Ditto for kids, which serve as a common source of rapid cross household infection.
You are describing why it didn’t stop completely, not why the shutdown didn’t have a major effect.
Additionally, it’s the same people conducting the high risk behavior. If even a quarter practiced stay at home outside on one grocery bill a week, that’s an impediment to expected spread.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:30 am to Volvagia
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It would be 3x the average death from ILI.
Now take away vaccines and known treatments for the seasonal flu, and redo your Math. Because that's the only way to get a valid comparison to corona, which has no vaccine or known treatments.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:41 am to Volvagia
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No it isn’t.
You are referring to the worst year since the last flu pandemic and calling it average.
It would be 3x the average death from ILI.
Its more or less in line with the flu, meaning flu+ (which is what I have referred to it since the beginning).
Estimates for this season from CDC.
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20,000+ Americans have died this year from the flu but that started in the fall.
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Flu has killed 20,000 Americans so far this season, including 136 children, CDC says
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Last year 34k deaths.
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CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza (Table 1). The number of influenza-associated illnesses that occurred last season was similar to the estimated number of influenza-associated illnesses during the 2012–2013 influenza season when an estimated 34 million people had symptomatic influenza illness6.
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With the flu, everyone gets sick and a good portion will have to see a doctor. With the rona only a smaller percentage will probably need to even see a doctor.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 7:45 am
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:45 am to Esquire
Lol, yup you are right sir esquire.....yet you still can’t read and comprehend but you are excellent at deflecting your ineptitude....you must know how to use the internet well, so hopefully you can google that word without issue!
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:17 am to honeybadger07
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yet you still can’t read and comprehend but you are excellent at deflecting your ineptitude
Keep blaming the deep state because you’re too stupid to use Boolean operators.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:22 am to Esquire
Lol, so I need to use computer science programming language to google search recent global news involving the president of the United States shutting down travel from the most populous country in the world, who would have known....hahaha gotcha, I guess I do need to learn how to google better
You can go back to commenting on your TV shows baw, your trivial BS getting old!
Don’t forget about working on your reading comprehension!!! I wonder if I include some conditional and’s and or’s maybe a not here and there in my original post you would have been able to understand it better hahaha
You can go back to commenting on your TV shows baw, your trivial BS getting old!
Don’t forget about working on your reading comprehension!!! I wonder if I include some conditional and’s and or’s maybe a not here and there in my original post you would have been able to understand it better hahaha
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:26 am to buckeye_vol
quote:this yet again ignores why only nyc seems to be getting hit the worst of course people are going to run to density and ignore everything else i have pointed out
Our confirmed case fatalities are nearly 5 times that figure in just 10% of the time
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:29 am to Flats
quote:and this is the point i am making to moss. he calls it "revised with new data" which is double talk for "wrong." the reason why that is important is because these numbers are driving fear and panic nationwide when only nyc, nola and detroit need to be shut down and only seniors really need to be quarantined.
232,298 ------> 94,249
34,754 -------> 14,601
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:32 am to djrunner
quote:you're conflating a lot of different things. first, the entertainment events you are mentioning is the major thing stopped. it doesn't matter hardly at all that schools/colleges are shut down because young people are not in the target demographic. it doesn't matter that restaurants are closed because off premises dining has gone through the roof. many people are still at work, just look at any traffic cam during rush hour. packages still being delivered. people still socializing
Restaurants, bars, schools, colleges, casinos, most places of business, air travel, the hotel industry, Disney World, concerts, baseball, basketball, museums, state and national parks etc are all closed
your post is called hurling the elephant. you just threw a bunch of stuff out there without context for each aspect
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:00 am to bfniii
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you're conflating a lot of different things. first, the entertainment events you are mentioning is the major thing stopped. it doesn't matter hardly at all that schools/colleges are shut down because young people are not in the target demographic. it doesn't matter that restaurants are closed because off premises dining has gone through the roof. many people are still at work, just look at any traffic cam during rush hour. packages still being delivered. people still socializing
your post is called hurling the elephant. you just threw a bunch of stuff out there without context for each aspect
You are a dumbass. Restaurants are down over 50%. Traffic, are you kidding, at any time of the day I can get all the way across town in 10 mins. The closing of the airlines and schools have been attributed as the 2 of the largest factors in slowing down the virus. You realize that anyone can carry right? And younger people don't always even know when they have the virus. You know these things right? And besides essential businesses, who is working? Quit looking exclusively at porn kid, its all at your fingertips!
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:37 am to honeybadger07
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I guess I do need to learn how to google better
You've identified the problem. Now to work on the solution.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:52 am to MIZ_USA
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Dipshit, that’s 60k with full social distancing. We don’t shut everything down to mitigate seasonal flu.
Dipshit may be a bit harsh but why aren't trump supporters willing to acknowledge that Trump may have reduced numbers of deaths by encouraging drastic measures be taken? The thinking on the part of some is that Trump has been victimized, the virus is not serious and the MSM has scared the nation into drastic measures. That would have to mean that Trump allowed that on his watch, and that is pretty damning if you think the virus is nothing to worry about.
Trump may have been slow to the dance, that's arguable, but he has encouraged drastic measures be taken....the numbers appear to be leveling off dramatically...who knows what impact the measures Trump has encouraged have actually impacted the numbers BUT we have two verifiable facts....Trump encouraged action, numbers seem to be getting more manageable. He should be lauded for that. The MSM is never going to do so but some of his most ardent supporters are doing him a grave disservice by insinuating he has been played by the MSM and has over-reacted.
Trumps willingness to spend money encouraged folks to practice social distancing....many would not have had the means to do so without knowing they would have some financial support for a short period of time. The numbers are leveling off by all appearances....they haven't gone away but projections are better. The only possible scenarios are that Trump has done a good job OR the MSM played him like a fiddle and the numbers were never as bad as indicated and he has wasted billions of dollars....it would seem that the first possibility is more positive for Trump and Trump supporters but many supporters seem to think it is possible that both scenarios are possible....meaning Trump was played and wasted billions of dollars....that is a bad look if you ask me. I think he has done a pretty damn good job in this mess....I am worried about the long term impact on the economy but I am not in a position to have anything other than an opinion on that, I don't have the facts as to what the impact would have been had the worse case scenario for deaths were to happen....
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:36 pm to highbooost
What an idiotic OP. Had we done what Rush wants the death toll would be higher! Man the ignorance is strong on the rant.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:09 pm to Gtmodawg
This has been a shite show. The government bribes will only go so far. You Public Health apologists, the clock is running on you guys because if this is not lifted in total by May 1. The economic problems will be a mutha fricka to unwind
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:22 pm to KiwiHead
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This has been a shite show. The government bribes will only go so far. You Public Health apologists, the clock is running on you guys because if this is not lifted in total by May 1. The economic problems will be a mutha fricka to unwind
The economic impact is a whole nother can of worms...it is going to be a shite show.....and will be used time and time and time again in the future to "correct" any crisis....
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:28 pm to Stealth Matrix
Every time y’all post a picture of this dude he looks pissed.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:55 pm to MIZ_USA
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that’s 60k with full social distancing. We don’t shut everything down to mitigate seasonal flu.
This seems a reasonable point. I guess it's easy to equate Covid19 and seasonal flu and just forget about all the near draconian mitigation policies put in place for Covid19.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:56 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
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This seems a reasonable point. I guess it's easy to equate Covid19 and seasonal flu and just forget about all the near draconian mitigation policies put in place for Covid19.
it's basically the same logic CCP sympathizers use to say china did so much better than us
I mean, maybe, but they welded people in their homes
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