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Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:31 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Let the irrational hate begin....
You have put a lot of time into this - yet you still blame the ICE agents.
The truth of the situation is ignored.
the direction of the front wheels at the time the shot was fired is of no consequence. This all took place within a fraction of a second. When the car began to move the wheels were pointed to the left - and that was the last position the agent had before his instinctive conclusion that the car was going to hit him. By then it was too late to change the outcome.
The threat was imminent - a change in steering wheel taken while the hammer of the revolver is coming down on the round cannot effect the outcome.
I hate that it happened. I wish it had not happened. - All this was nonsense resulted from the democrat imperative to stop the enforcement of the laws they had been abusing for decades.
And make no mistake. Regardless of the whelps of outrage about the death, the democrats are thrilled it happened - just as they were given new life by the death of the drug addled felon in 2020. These are the DESIRED results of the democrat agenda - cause as much outrage as possible for feeding their desire to overthrow the national constitution and initiate top down socialist dictatorship.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:55 am to SirWinston
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Officer should not have shot, but these leftist idiots are antagonizing them nonstop. Put yourself in his shoes and you might have shot too.
I did not watch any video of this until this morning, but I have read a lot of the commentary. When I saw the video I was surprised how obvious it was that the agent shot to prevent the woman from getting away - not out of fear of his own safety.
That guy belongs in jail, and if she survived, so would the woman driver.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 6:01 am to Penrod
Good thing her tires spun I'm on the ice.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 6:07 am to TX Tiger
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ICEhole
Know how I know you’re gay?
Posted on 1/9/26 at 6:13 am to Penrod
The officers’ approach and actions during the shooting don’t look good, and I have serious doubts that this was a clean shot. I’d like to see the bodycam footage and have all the facts before drawing conclusions. Right now, the lack of empathy afterward is concerning, and anyone rushing to defend it as completely justified should pause and let the process play out. To me this isn’t so clean cut regardless of what side you come down on with the information we currently have..
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 7:07 am
Posted on 1/9/26 at 6:31 am to IvoryBillMatt
These slow down, which way is the wheel turned videos are pointless.
First it is very unlikely that the officer could see which way the wheel was turned.
Second, the driver floored it which would have caused the engine to rev. Even if she was trying to flee, it is reasonable and expected that the officer thought she was going to try and run him over.
Third, It's a split second decision, taking the time to break it down it ignores that fact.
fourth no matter her intent it is clearly self defense. Think about it this way a guy pulls a gun but doesn't intend to shoot it, and gets shot. How could the shooter know he didn't intend to shoot. Same thing here, how could the officer know she intended to flee?
First it is very unlikely that the officer could see which way the wheel was turned.
Second, the driver floored it which would have caused the engine to rev. Even if she was trying to flee, it is reasonable and expected that the officer thought she was going to try and run him over.
Third, It's a split second decision, taking the time to break it down it ignores that fact.
fourth no matter her intent it is clearly self defense. Think about it this way a guy pulls a gun but doesn't intend to shoot it, and gets shot. How could the shooter know he didn't intend to shoot. Same thing here, how could the officer know she intended to flee?
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:59 am to AlwysATgr
quote:As does shooting a woman for mere “failure to comply” and then making a bogus claim of “self defense.“
Nothing says compliance like a "steaming" vehicle.
There is a good reason that Andy only trusted Fife with a single bullet, and make him keep it in his front shirt pocket.
Maybe Good should not have been there. Maybe the instruction for her to exit the vehicle was a lawful one. Maybe she was breaking the law by failing to do so.
But she was definitely not trying to hit him with the vehicle, and his life was not remotely in danger, to any reasonable person. THAT is the standard for a “clean shoot.” To paraphrase Mr. Cartman, Agent Fife shot that woman for “disrespecting his authori-TAY.“
as an aside, all of this discussion applies only to the first of his three gunshots. The second two shots were obviously fired (even to a Trumpists) after he was clear of the vehicle and completely out of harms way.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 8:11 am
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:06 am to ChineseBandit58
It’s always fun watching people who know how the story ends criticize the decisions made by people in the moment.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:09 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:Juries do it every day, and one will be doing so in this case, too.
It’s always fun watching people who know how the story ends criticize the decisions made by people in the moment.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:11 am to RelentlessAnalysis
Doubt it but thanks for being a rock solid, never wavering, hardcore shill for the left no matter what user name you happen to be using
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:15 am to RCDfan1950
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If tweet fails to load, click here. The protesters are gearing up in many places, KC for one. They want chaos and violence. The driver that was shot lived in KC 8 months ago before moving to MN.
https://fox4kc.com/news/hundreds-gather-in-kc-for-anti-ice-protest-demand-justice-for-woman-killed/
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:40 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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mere “failure to comply”
"Mere?"
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:41 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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Maybe Good should not have been there. Maybe the instruction for her to exit the vehicle was a lawful one. Maybe she was breaking the law by failing to do so
How the hell can you say "maybe" to any of that? There are some gray areas here, but clearly she should not have been there (blocking ICE agents is not 'peaceful protest', it is an illegal interference).
She's interfering with Federal agents, her vehicle is blocking the road - how the hell are the agents not within their rights to command her to exit the vehicle?
All of that is breaking the law - where is the 'maybe' in any of that?
At this point, the only "maybe" is that maybe the officer over-reacted. But we were not in his shoes, we can't judge from these other angles exactly what he experienced.
But there is no maybe that, if that woman didn't break the law, and further ignore commands to stop and exit the vehicle,and further attempt to drive away, the agent would not have been put in a position to make a split-second decision to fire or not.
I hope we can see more body cam video, but we already know that many people like you have already made up their mind based on totally made up 'facts'.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 8:43 am
Posted on 1/9/26 at 9:00 am to CamNewtonFan
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What do you earnestly think I believe and what do you think my true thoughts/identity is then, if you’re sure I’m being so dishonest here?
Plenty of lying anti trump leftists around here.
You are obviously the same as that b!tch who got herself shot.
You attacked the officer with insults and then b!tched up about others calling you what you are.
You cant hide that, thats literally what you did.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 9:09 am to AlwysATgr
quote:Yes, "mere."
mere “failure to comply”quote:
"Mere?"
Mere failure to comply with an officer's commands does NOT constitute a valid legal basis for the responsive use of deadly force in ANY American jurisdiction. NONE of them.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 9:13 am to MidWestGuy
quote:Based upon your post, it seems to me that it is YOU who has already "made up his mind."
we already know that many people like you have already made up their mind
Posted on 1/9/26 at 9:18 am to IvoryBillMatt
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To me, the Forbes video seems to confirm what the NYT video hinted at...that Agent Ross was NOT actually hit by Good's SUV. Maybe I missed something?
I came across this video this morning, it's a bit blurry but pretty definitive that she did, in fact, hit him.
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Posted on 1/9/26 at 9:23 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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Mere failure to comply with an officer's commands does NOT constitute a valid legal basis for the responsive use of deadly force in ANY American jurisdiction. NONE of them.
I agree with you on that, but that officer very much had strong reason to fear for his life.
None of us know what was going through her mind.
It is in every way a justifiable shot when your refusal to comply with an officer puts his life in danger.
Its the combination of the two.
She could have gotten out of the car and run away, he would have not been justified in shooting her.
But a car is a deadly weapon, multiple attempts have been made to run down ICE agents.
She may have intended to hit him and then kept turning in shock after she was shot.
We do not know.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 9:25 am to cssamerican
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Right now, the lack of empathy afterward is concerning
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