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re: Short, comprehensive video of what happened in Minneapolis ICE shooting
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:44 pm to Harry Caray
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:44 pm to Harry Caray
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Did you watch the video from the OP? It really looks like that isn't the case.
It’s a sweet sweet fantasy, babyyyyyyy.
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:45 pm to Harry Caray
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She lived in the neighborhood.
What was her address?
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:47 pm to EphesianArmor
Brother Ephesians, nice Operation meme.
I agree that the actions of ICE after the shooting make almost no sense. The fat female civilian in the foreground showed more urgency than ANY of the ICE agents.
I agree that the actions of ICE after the shooting make almost no sense. The fat female civilian in the foreground showed more urgency than ANY of the ICE agents.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:49 pm to Harry Caray
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Did you watch the video from the OP? It really looks like that isn't the case.
It looks like that from the angle shown it that video. I agree.
But from videos that were filmed from an angle in front of the car you can clearly see that he was hit by the car.
You have to remember that it's the officer's responsibility not just to protect himself from someone using a moving vehicle recklessly to the point that she hit the officer, it's his responsibility to try to prevent her from hitting another officer or an innocent bystander.
I don't know what the court will decide on this if it goes that far.
It just looks like FAFO to me. It's regrettable, but as much nonsense harassment as these people have dished out against ICE so far the only thing that surprises me is that it took this long for something like this to happen.
I've been saying, "Somebody is going to get killed," watching these idiot virtue signaling protestors for 8 or 9 months now.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:51 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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I agree that the actions of ICE after the shooting make almost no sense.
Agreed.
There was definitely Billy Badass typical cop behavior happening after the shooting. Like refusing to allow a doctor to see if he could help the women who was shot.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:55 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Thanks brutha.
Wait till you check out this guy's work (Call 4 an Uprising). He's one of the best *and a Believer.) He explains everything. Past, present (and where this is all going.) But he really nailed this one, with no sweat.
Wait till you check out this guy's work (Call 4 an Uprising). He's one of the best *and a Believer.) He explains everything. Past, present (and where this is all going.) But he really nailed this one, with no sweat.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:56 pm to wackatimesthree
Wtf I agree with wackatimesthree
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:56 pm to IvoryBillMatt
You realize that person you speak of was her girlfriend/wife. You knew that. Every post of yours is passive aggressive bullshite. Same every single time.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:58 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Her death was completely unnecessary. She should be alive today. We can discuss whether or not the ICE agent used appropriate force (and the legal system will decide that); however, it is NOT a controversial statement to say that she would be alive if she would have complied initially.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:59 pm to IvoryBillMatt
I agree with people who say you're trying to do NFL instant replay on this situation. The car was moving forward toward the agent when he draws and fires.
It's a shame that this will be argued about for more than one day.
It's a shame that this will be argued about for more than one day.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:00 pm to Harry Caray
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She lived in the neighborhood.
No
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:02 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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They just want the issue to die, and the citizens aren't owed the truth.
The issue is dead. The truth is obvious. The agent acted legally.
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I can't imagine that any rebuttal of this evidence will be posted by DHS.
Except that the moron narrating the video says "the agent isn't being run over." The agent was hit by the car AND THEN shoots. Being able to get out of the way doesn't mean he has no right to defend himself.
These people want to act like I shouldn't be able to shoot just because someone missed when firing a gun at me. Same. Exact. Principle.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:02 pm to wackatimesthree
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it's his responsibility to try to prevent her from hitting another officer or an innocent bystander.
I agree that it was a justified shooting and FAFO. Firing at a fleeing vehicle is generally against DHS policy because of the danger to bystanders and the possibility (as in this case) of a runaway, driverless vehicle.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:03 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Officer was not looking at the front wheels, but at the car which lurched towards him. I can see how he feared for his life. That's a legal but unfortunate shot. And not an ideal one considering how many idiot bystanders were around.
Oddly enough if the officer was more than grazed by the car and actually ended up under the bumper, the shot wouldn't have stopped it from running him over. She stood on the gas pedal and the car didn't stop until it hit another vehicle. That car was a danger to everyone the moment she nailed the gas pedal.
She should not have been there. But since she was, she should not have blocked the officers. But since she did, she should have listened to them when they said to get out of the car. But since she didn't, she shouldn't have stood on the accelerator pedal with a crowd of people around. Unfortunately for her, one of those people was a federal officer with a gun and they were reasonably fearful for their own life and the life of people around the car on that street.
IMO...good shot. Bad situation. Glad that cop was there and not a few inches to his left, because he'd be dead too right now.
Oddly enough if the officer was more than grazed by the car and actually ended up under the bumper, the shot wouldn't have stopped it from running him over. She stood on the gas pedal and the car didn't stop until it hit another vehicle. That car was a danger to everyone the moment she nailed the gas pedal.
She should not have been there. But since she was, she should not have blocked the officers. But since she did, she should have listened to them when they said to get out of the car. But since she didn't, she shouldn't have stood on the accelerator pedal with a crowd of people around. Unfortunately for her, one of those people was a federal officer with a gun and they were reasonably fearful for their own life and the life of people around the car on that street.
IMO...good shot. Bad situation. Glad that cop was there and not a few inches to his left, because he'd be dead too right now.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:03 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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-none of the ICE officers who interacted with her (including the shooter) before the Nissan truck showed up thought she was doing anything that merited arrest
She was parked perpendicular across a lane of traffic, blocking the road. That isn't legal. And, they never said she was under arrest; they asked her to step out of the vehicle, which she is legally required to do.
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-that she wasn't killed by the first shot through the windshield
I did not hear that stated in the video, and it would take an autopsy to determine that, so that isn't a fact.
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-that Agent Ross wasn't injured enough to keep him from walking normally
How injured does an officer have to be before they can defend themselves? Is there a minimum number of broken bones, stab wounds, or bullet holes before they can respond to a threat?
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-that Agent Ross and other agents were wisked away from a crime scene without being interrogated
I would agree that is a problem, but I don't know what they were told to do by superiors or other police that might have come on the scene.
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-that ICE didn't render any first aid to the victim and prevented a doctor from even checking her pulse
Any random person can claim to be a doctor. They aren't going to allow a random person access that might try to plant evidence, remove evidence, or harm a person further. That is just common sense.
If they made no attempt to render aid, then it should be investigated, but again, we don't know if there was a reason they didn't or not.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:07 pm to Nurbis
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Notice he doesn't pull his gun until her tires spin on the road towards him. That means he perceived a lethal threat at that moment. So he had no intention of using his gun until she drove towards him. If he had already had his gun pulled, aiming at her, there might be an argument that he was just looking to shoot her, but that isn't what happened.
If he feared getting run over I’d imagine he would have jumped out of the way instead of pulling his gun and get crushed. Or maybe he’s stupid, who knows. And if she was that big of a threat why didn’t the dude holding on to the door blow her head off?
They say this is a dude who got dragged down the highway for smashing a window out of a car and getting his arm hung up in another stupid move attack. If nothing else this dude should be terminated before he kills himself or another innocent American citizen.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:14 pm to imjustafatkid
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Being able to get out of the way doesn't mean he has no right to defend himself.
If he were out of the way, how could he still be in danger? If it was because of proximity and crazy behavior, why did none of the other agents shoot at her?
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:41 pm to Nurbis
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How injured does an officer have to be before they can defend themselves? Is there a minimum number of broken bones, stab wounds, or bullet holes before they can respond to a threat?
I was just pointing out that President Trump was bullshitting when he said that Agent Ross was "run over and was recovering in the hospital."
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that she wasn't killed by the first shot through the windshield
Fair enough, I guess she could still turn the wheel if she were dead.
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Any random person can claim to be a doctor. They aren't going to allow a random person access that might try to plant evidence, remove evidence, or harm a person further. That is just common sense.
Good point. It was just odd to let her go 15 minutes without first aid.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:55 pm to Big Scrub TX
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The agent was hit by the vehicle. This same agent evidently was actually struck and injured in an earlier incident last year or whatever.
In his first car incident with an illegal alien driving, his arm got stuck in a door and he was dragged 100 yards. Took 33 stitches.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:58 pm to SirWinston
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Wtf I agree with wackatimesthree
Try it.
You'll like it.
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