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re: The filibuster is unconstitutional

Posted on 11/8/25 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2638 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 4:00 pm to
Seriously! I am almost certain at this point the majority of the PT board are pissed off David Duke voters who never took a civics class and have no idea on how things actually work.

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
40740 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 4:03 pm to
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This is the typical level of political knowledge on this board. So it tracks.


You disagree with Wednesday?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471308 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 4:06 pm to
She got a lot wrong in this thread, which formed the backbone of her argument
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1574 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 4:33 pm to
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Thune has nothing to do with it.. It's because of John Kennedy. He is the one raising hell about it. You probably didn't notice because everything he says is methodically supposed to be funny like he is a comedian.


I must say, the Will Rogers “witty everyman” act got old probably 2-3 years ago. Kennedy is another one that needs to get out of the way.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84946 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 4:35 pm to
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Wednesday never recovered once the "The President must be convicted by the Senate before he can be prosecuted criminally" theory she pushed HARD was shot to shite a few years ago.


I forgot about that. That’s a bad look.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
76237 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 5:53 pm to
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let's just sit on our asses and wait for Democrats to get in power to remove the filler buster - This way it makes Republicans look great while destroying our country at the same time. Genius!!

They tried in the past and it was only Manchin & Sexy-arse Sinema who stopped them.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8371 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:30 pm to
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term was applied to adventurers like William Walker who were engaging in private military expeditions in Latin America.


This is why I come here.

I go down many rabbit holes and learn new things from this board.
I have a page about him to read later unless LSU starts losing bad early. LOL.

No deflect intended.

OP is not a panican as FLTech contended.
She does great work on this board and her legal background has educated my more history based background many times.
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
2072 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
2053 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:47 pm to
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The left has perverted the filibuster, just like everything else they touch.


Both parties have been perfectly happy to utilize the filibuster whenever they are in the minority, but it's only now become a perversion?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113878 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:49 pm to
Maybe...

Constitution allows each chamber to determine their own rules.

I don't think the SCOTUS would be willing to wade into what it would consider a political question.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 6:50 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
75257 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:11 pm to
Right
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17111 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:18 pm to
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I forgot about that. That’s a bad look


I was actually correct on that issue within the scope of his executive authority.

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84946 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:21 pm to
That’s word salad
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17111 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:30 pm to
The court found he was immune from prosecution within the zone of his executive authority.

One of the arguments raised was that he had to be impeached first if he were in that zone.

This was partially adopted by the SCOTUS.

The SCOTUS has never considered whether if something has a majority of votes, it is required to be presented to the President.

In this case, the Senate has refused to take a vote, effectively providing a veto power to a minority number of legislators.

It violates the presentment clause, and it violates the separation of powers.

2/3 of the vote is necessary to override a veto. 68, not 60.

Sorry if I’m willing to look to the text of the constitution. None of that has been addressed by anyone. Yall just keep saying I’m wrong bc I was correct about an argument partially adopted by the SCOTUS.

Congress has a check on the President with respect to whether a law passed by the majority should prevail. Its a 2/3 majority
Posted by iamfrankreynolds
Member since Jul 2024
194 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:33 pm to
Socialism is unconstitutional. Don’t be a pursy.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 7:34 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84946 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:35 pm to
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This was partially adopted by the SCOTUS.


Show me this part.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
20385 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:36 pm to
I have always felt you fight evil with more evil, fire with bigger fire, and so on. Democrats take advantage of GOP's unwillingness to get down and get real dirty.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26442 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:36 pm to
Don't think it's unconstitutional, just think they were dumb from moving away from the floor filibuster to the virtual filibuster and cloture vote
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471308 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:40 pm to
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One of the arguments raised was that he had to be impeached first if he were in that zone.

You're adding the bold post hoc

The immunity aspect wasn't really highly contested because everyone assumed he has some form of it, but the question was exactly how it would work. There was very little, if any, contested discussions on here over the minutia of the immunity portion

If he's immune, then he couldn't be prosecuted for anything, Senate trial or no. It would make no sense to combine the two into one argument.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17111 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 11:14 am to
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