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Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:38 am to
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:38 am to
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Correct me if I am wrong, but they haven't said ANYTHING? They also have clearly withheld information... or am I mistaken


Not at all. They're deliberately being vague and trying to misdirect because this was an act of terrorism.
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3671 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:44 am to
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wish people would stop using this term. Islam is, relative to the ideals of western liberal democracies, radical. From the perspective of the West, EVERY Muslim should be considered a 'radical'. The foundations of Islam are antithetical to the values of the West. So the Muslims going around killing people, preaching jihad, sharia law, etc, are practicing the true faith, they're not 'radical' Muslims, they are mainstream adherents to the faith.

Yep
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:44 am to
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You're making a lot of assumptions here, not sure based on what facts.

I’m making very few assumptions.

Lots of polling has been done.

LINK
Posted by BabyDraco1499
Hellexandria
Member since Nov 2025
1024 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:44 am to
I definitely agree with you that it would be a full time job, but at this point it seems they are being purposefully deviant and secretive. Especially since the "remark", Brown deleting a student's profile, I mean objectively it seems like they are attempting to cover facts up to avoid a potential narrative, no?
Posted by BabyDraco1499
Hellexandria
Member since Nov 2025
1024 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:48 am to
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And are you really bringing up execution of Jewish children after what we've seen in Gaza the last few years?



Ahhh yes, the defense of the use of women and children in an active war in the name of "Free Palestine". Ridiculous. Do you understand that the people you are defending, live on the credo to exterminate the West and ALL non muslims? Including you? And won't stop until they do?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26581 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:49 am to
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He is associated with Turtle Island (the bombers from LA), and he is a student at Brown.


They just arrested someone from Louisiana associated with Turtle Island. WTH is that?
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:49 am to
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Brown deleting a student's profile, I mean objectively it seems like they are attempting to cover facts up to avoid a potential narrative, no?
I am not going to call you names or insult your intelligence, because it is not ENTIRELY unreasonable to reach those conclusions.

I just don't see it that way. I think it FAR more likely that they are just protecting their student from harassment, until the police have developed the facts.

Ask yourself what Richard Jewell experienced, until he was finally and conclusively cleared. Hell, how long did he face problems AFTER he was finally and conclusively cleared

This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 12:30 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:53 am to
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I just don't see it that way. I think it FAR more likely that they are just protecting their student from harassment, until the police have developed the facts.


bullshite. Go watch that press conference. They are trying hard to control the narrative.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:53 am to
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If they HAD conclusively cleared him by now, I think that they would have said so ... for exactly the reasons others have stated.


The Attorney General said: "If that name [Karbouch] meant anything to this investigation, don't you think we would be out there looking for him, we would let you know we were looking for him..."

So it SOUNDED like they had cleared him, but maybe he was leaving it ambiguous.

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Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
8584 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:53 am to
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My question is if she was targeted how did shooter know where she was seated in that room?


Maybe someone was in the room providing the information to the shooter.
Posted by BabyDraco1499
Hellexandria
Member since Nov 2025
1024 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:55 am to
I guess the backhanded slight is appreciated?

I am far from unintelligent and promise I have far more actual experience in this field of work. You are jumping through hoops to try to defend the blatant and willful concealment of the truth.

Btw, they just released his photo. So, guess I wasn't that far off, eh?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
65956 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:00 pm to
The shooter appears to be the poster child for Leftist sainthood:

Fat
Effeminate
Gay
Muslim
Pro Palestine
LGBTQ activist
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Member since Oct 2025
2968 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Btw, they just released his photo. So, guess I wasn't that far off, eh?
Not sure what you mean.

Did law enforcement release a photo of Mustaffa as a suspect? I've not seen that. All I have seen is an "enhanced" photo of someone unidentifiable.

Link?
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I guess the backhanded slight is appreciated?
You have chosen to take offense where none was offered. Your interpretation is not entirely unreasonable, though I disagree with it.

I too have spent a career solving complex puzzles, often without all the pieces. Reasonable people CAN reach different conclusions from incomplete facts.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37271 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:14 pm to
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The shooter appears to be the poster child for Leftist sainthood: Fat Effeminate Gay Muslim Pro Palestine LGBTQ activist


What’s funny is the leftist women aren’t going to fawn over this guy like Luigi or the Boston bomber because he isn’t “good looking”

women being allowed to open cheer for criminals and vote for politicians because of how “handsome” they are is the most insane part of American culture that is never called out publicly

This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 12:16 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64276 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:15 pm to
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The Attorney General said: "If that name [Karbouch] meant anything to this investigation, don't you think we would be out there looking for him, we would let you know we were looking for him..."



Because they're going to pursue other possibilities before that one.

My reading is not that they've looked into him and absolved him of any involvement, its that they've yet to consider him a potential suspect at all.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Member since Oct 2025
2968 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:19 pm to
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My reading is not that they've looked into him and absolved him of any involvement, its that they've yet to consider him a potential suspect at all.
Exactly what evidence would cause them to "consider" him, other than some crackpot on the Internet saying that he walks like the shooter seen in the videos?

Was he enrolled in this class? Did he recently have a breakup with someone in the class? Was he sending hate mail to the professor? Please be specific.
Posted by BabyDraco1499
Hellexandria
Member since Nov 2025
1024 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:22 pm to
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Reasonable people CAN reach different conclusions from incomplete facts.


Fair point
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:29 pm to
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Because they're going to pursue other possibilities before that one.

My reading is not that they've looked into him and absolved him of any involvement, its that they've yet to consider him a potential suspect at all.


Maybe I have unrealistic expectations regarding resources, but don't you think they should examine Karbouch NOW? If guilty, surely he has had the most reason to flee. He was outed on X Tuesday night.

If he's innocent, though, wouldn't you have expected him to contact the police already?

Give me his phone number. I have already emailed him...no response yet:) It was noteworthy that his Brown University email account was working as of yesterday morning.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 12:32 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:36 pm to
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The Attorney General said: "If that name [Karbouch] meant anything to this investigation, don't you think we would be out there looking for him, we would let you know we were looking for him..."

So it SOUNDED like they had cleared him, but maybe he was leaving it ambiguous.


A reporter needs to ask them, point blank, "Is Karbouch a person of interest?" If they say no, then ask them, "Have you cleared him and are you aware of his current location"?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:40 pm to
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Exactly what evidence would cause them to "consider" him, other than some crackpot on the Internet saying that he walks like the shooter seen in the videos?


There could be several working hypotheses. One would be some personal beef with someone in the class. Another plausible one is that this was an act of Islamic and/or Palestinian terrorism. The fact that Karbouch has strong pro-Palestinian leanings can at least START you along that trail. THEN, the fact that he is at least a superficial resemblance to the person of interest certainly warrants some investigation.
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