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re: The not a great candidate argument is so sheepish.

Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:33 pm to
You’re just a mouth for the narrative. Unsurprising other than your lack of awareness.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:37 pm to
I'm just telling you the reality of how he is perceived, fairly or not.
Posted by KiwiHead
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 1:44 pm to
Organization wins elections. Have things in place before the election. Putting your name out, going to the black preachers or unions or state fairs or mega church pators. Having volunteers in place. Pressing the flesh. Have an easy succinct message and hammer down with it like Make America Great Again or It's the economy, stupid.

Have oppo research working to define your opposition before he even thinks about defining you. Advertise first before your opposition even gets organized....Latoya Cantrell did this when she first ran....she had billboards up before she had clear challengers. Line up your money early and have steady stream of money. Learn not to talk.
Posted by oldskule
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 1:47 pm to
Our shitty candidates are getting destroyed by worse shitty candidates

Mitch blocked the candidates he did not want in DC, period!
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 1:52 pm to
Biggest problem for Oz was that he was seen as a carpetbagger. I thought he became a good retail candidate. Fetterman had help. I think that Shapiro probably diverted resources to Fetterman and did a lot of quiet shilling for him because he was killing Mastriano.
Posted by RedCali714
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Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:19 pm to
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And they are easily motivated and manipulated by fear.


Wrong. They are motivated by their pure hate of "nazi" Republicans. They really, truly believe the overwhelming majority of Republicans are nazis... if not 100% of them. That's why they have no qualms about pulling these dirty stunts to steal elections. They are the "good guys" and the "evil guys" must be (D)efeated by any means necessary.
Posted by RedCali714
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:20 pm to
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However you want to splice it. He did more than Oz to win over PA voters.


Imagine believing this is true and that the election was legitimate.
Posted by RedCali714
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Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:29 pm to
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Plus, possibly many fringe stayed home disgusted because Trump was uninvited to campaign for Walker towards the end


I'm sure voter apathy was in issue with Walker. I'm sure thousands of Republicans in Georgia, after 2020 and the general elections of 2022 have to feel like their votes don't matter because the winners have already been decided for them before the elections even take place. I can't say I blame them and I don't know how much I will prioritize voting outside of my local elections like Mayor, city council, Sheriff and DA anymore. George Carlin was 100% accurate about Americans' illusion of choice and the true "owners" of this nation. I seent it with my own eyes now.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:34 pm to
What you have done is describe the issue as you wish it to be. The simple fact is that Kemp and other R’s did much better statewide than Walker, so it was something about Walker that did him in. In PA, you had two poor candidates—Oz was a carpet bagger—in a state that still leans blue.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:37 pm to
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They are motivated by their pure hate of "nazi" Republicans. They really, truly believe the overwhelming majority of Republicans are nazis... if not 100% of them. That's why they have no qualms about pulling these dirty stunts to steal elections. They are the "good guys" and the "evil guys" must be (D)efeated by any means necessary.



And every last damn one of them would send us to an extermination camp at a moment's notice if they could. This is another thing Republicans aren't getting through their heads. Your family that votes democrat is no longer your friend or ally.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:30 pm to
The copium is strong in here. Y’all waited until after Walker lost twice to come out and say he’s a bad candidate and republicans are too discerning when it comes to their vote.

Just take the L.
Posted by DaTruth225
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:56 pm to
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I have. Roy Blunt. Todd Akin.


I assume you mean Roy Moore. If that’s the case, all the bad candidates you voted have one thing in common. They lost state wide elections in red states. Add Walker to that list. The GOP realized their mistake and won both of the seats the next cycle. GA primary voters have to do the same.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:00 pm to
The President of the Shenandoah Estates HOA has more experience than Fetterman
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:03 pm to
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The not a great candidate argument is so sheepish.


As long as we believe their excuses for our candidates losing we can hope to win.
We can hope for change and a better future.

Once we realize there is no hope of winning, then we know we're only subjects.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:14 pm to
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You voted for senate candidates worse than Walker? Who?


Cassidy.

At least they could've held Walker's hand and guided him in protocol, procedures, and what to say.

Think the Dems haven't had to do that with Hank Johnson and others like him.

You heard what came out of Johnson when he was on his own in a setting.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:42 pm to
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I assume you mean Roy Moore. I


You assume incorrectly.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 4:44 pm
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:44 pm to
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Wrong. They are motivated by their pure hate of "nazi" Republicans. They really, truly believe the overwhelming majority of Republicans are nazis.


I agree. They are motivated by fear. They've been told by their leaders and the media that Republicans are nazis.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:47 pm to
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However you want to splice it. He did more than Oz to win over PA voters.


Really.

What did Fetterman do to win them over?

I really want to see this.
Posted by cadillacattack
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:47 pm to
OP gets it
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:47 pm to
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Is it weird that I’ve been voting for over 30 years (and extremely rarely voting for anyone I truly WANT) and yet only recently have I ever seen such handwringing over the “quality” of candidates? Hell, I’ve voted for more shite candidates than “quality” candidates in my lifetime, but only NOW is it the biggest issue for our concern?


Thank

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