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re: The Speaker Mess is 100% McCarthy's fault
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:47 am to JediTiger2
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:47 am to JediTiger2
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We just can't seem to replace him either because he was a total failure in his leadership position.
You never make any move in the first place without behind the scenes wrangling and have stuff reasonably in place. Politics 101.
It was a catastrophe because they are idiots.
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:48 am to JediTiger2
It was McCarthy's fault, but not for your reasons. He didn't live up to his promises and therefore reneged on the deal.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:52 am to Penrod
Watch McCarthy enter the Speaker race again, give concessions to some Dems to get cross over votes, and win again but now with promises made to Dems.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:57 am to Penrod
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It was McCarthy's fault, but not for your reasons. He didn't live up to his promises and therefore reneged on the deal.
THIS IS THE POINT!
There is no deal required if he doesn't fail in attracting GOP candidates that are worth a damn and actually help get them elected. His job was to recruit, fund raise, and get these people elected. HE FAILED. At that point, he should have resigned his leadership position and maybe none of this would have been a problem to start.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 11:59 am
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:59 am to JediTiger2
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The Speaker Mess is 100% McCarthy's fault
When you think the other guy is bluffing and you call his hand and it turns out he’s holding 4 aces…who’s fault is that?
Certainly not the guy holding all the cards.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:00 pm to JediTiger2
Its his fault that the first vote was even taken. Since then I imagine great sums of cash are being thrown at a no vote for pubs then money will back a simp/est dem or rino.
Not all is bad news because you can see who believes what and who is a paid off money whore.
Not all is bad news because you can see who believes what and who is a paid off money whore.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:12 pm to goatmilker
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Its his fault that the first vote was even taken. Since then I imagine great sums of cash are being thrown at a no vote for pubs then money will back a simp/est dem or rino. Not all is bad news because you can see who believes what and who is a paid off money whore.
Were all the people refusing to back Scalise money whores? Or do you own a pair of one way lenses.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:13 pm to tango029
If you want to think money is not involved be my guest.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:13 pm to JediTiger2
McCarthy promised but didn’t deliver.
How can anyone deny he’s not at fault for all this mess??
How can anyone deny he’s not at fault for all this mess??
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:14 pm to hashtag
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Watch McCarthy enter the Speaker race again, give concessions to some Dems to get cross over votes, and win again but now with promises made to Dems.
Which will only confirm that he was the wrong man for the job all along. The Dems will own him, but he doesn’t care, he’s got the gavel back.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:15 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Then publicly not behind closed doors challenged fellow pubs.
He blew it.
He blew it.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:17 pm to JediTiger2
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He failed to deliver the funds
McCarthy raised more funds than any other GOP congressman and it wasn't even close.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:18 pm to JediTiger2
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Sure. Matt Gaetz joined with the Democrats and did what he did, but McCarthy was in charge of getting Republicans elected. He failed to deliver the funds and the votes to have the red wave we were supposed to have. If it wasn't for his failure here, he would have a larger majority and Gaetz would have been a non-issue.
I'd also say this is a failure to whip votes. Steve Scalise, and Tom Emmer play a part in their failure to whip votes accordingly.
Like or hate McCarthy's leadership - it doesn't matter. We're here because of him.
If you need to tell yourself this go right ahead. Hope it works out for ya.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:45 pm to TigerDoc
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It's the conference's fault that they put in a speaker with a rule that a single member could vacate the chair. They let their backbenchers rule them.
Simple minded people like you think you can squeeze a balloon and not have its shape change elsewhere.
That rule was the reason McCarthy was electable. It was the assurance that he would keep his promises.
You want to pretend that wasn’t the case and look at the rule in a vacuum.
It’s dumb, man.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:46 pm to Ten Bears
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handle the investigations of Biden,
What investigations?
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They are too busy hiding bribes and too worried about their power.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 1:48 pm
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