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re: There Was Never Going to Be Any 'Rebuilt' Pacific Palisades
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:54 am to SloaneRanger
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:54 am to SloaneRanger
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And many are. But there are also a lot of good, conservative people in Cali. Must be terrible to have to put up with the insanity out there.
There are. Some of my best friends in life and the most conservative people I know are in California. Orange County, especially. California is an absolutely wonderful place, aside from the liberal politicians and commies in L.A. and S.F..
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:54 am to theliontamer
Already announced a big low cost housing plan.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:55 am to djmed
Completely unsurprised.
Communists LOVE controlling housing via apartments. Shelter is the #1 need for all people… and controlling shelter is the highest priority in their sick vision of a population enslaved to the state. They can’t wait to separate you from your property. They work at it every single day.
Communists LOVE controlling housing via apartments. Shelter is the #1 need for all people… and controlling shelter is the highest priority in their sick vision of a population enslaved to the state. They can’t wait to separate you from your property. They work at it every single day.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:56 am to djmed
USA used to go to war to prevent the spread of Communism- now we just watch as they take over our beautiful cities and states.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:00 am to The Torch
So just gross ineptitude? Can the people who owned homes not just rebuild their own homes on the land they own?
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:00 am to djmed
I'm actively cheering this on.
Don't make exceptions. They voted for this, they need to feel every inch of the regulatory dick they willingly created.
Don't make exceptions. They voted for this, they need to feel every inch of the regulatory dick they willingly created.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:05 am to theliontamer
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Can the people who owned homes not just rebuild their own homes on the land they own?
Not without a permit which is impossible to obtain, Adam Carolla has a blog on YouTube and says “0ne” house is being framed after six months.
I think something like 1800 were damaged
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:12 am to The Torch
I mean there's probably a lot of cleanup and municipal projects involved after a fire like that. Maybe they just don't want a thousand contractors bringing in heavy equipment just yet if it's not ready or safe? It took a while to rebuild after Katrina. I don't think people were even allowed in the city for a couple months after and it was under martial law. Dangerous shite and dead bodies everywhere.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:15 am to theliontamer
You sir are delusional. It’s part of the plan.
Look at Maui. It’s no different. Maui was years ago.
Look at Maui. It’s no different. Maui was years ago.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:18 am to theliontamer
Watch this
Megyn Kelly is joined by Adam Carolla, host of The Adam Carolla Show, to talk about the incompetent leadership in LA and California, the challenge of rebuilding with all the red tape and bureaucracy, the billions California wasted on a failed high speed rail system, and more.
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Megyn Kelly is joined by Adam Carolla, host of The Adam Carolla Show, to talk about the incompetent leadership in LA and California, the challenge of rebuilding with all the red tape and bureaucracy, the billions California wasted on a failed high speed rail system, and more.
LINK
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:21 am to djmed
I gotta be honest here: I don't care about what happens to LA or California. Nothing that is happening is a surprise and all of it is the inevitable outcome of decades of stupid people repeatedly voting for policies that are nothing but sheer fantasy.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:22 am to theliontamer
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So what is the goal exactly? Sell the land to rich people to build mansions? Build low income housing to support the great replacement?
not sure if serious, but just in case. The goal is always to take land from individuals and give it to corporations. The corporations pay politicians big $ to get this level of service.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:30 am to theliontamer
quote:Apparently they don’t want any contractors, as only 44 building permits were issued in the 6 months after the fire.
I mean there's probably a lot of cleanup and municipal projects involved after a fire like that. Maybe they just don't want a thousand contractors bringing in heavy equipment just yet if it's not ready or safe? It took a while to rebuild after Katrina. I don't think people were even allowed in the city for a couple months after and it was under martial law. Dangerous shite and dead bodies everywhere.
This really is no different than Maui.
The homes are destroyed, the state takes the land, and then repurposes it as they see fit.
It is progressive governmental politics at its finest.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:30 am to DarthRebel
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I fully support turning Pacific Palisades into high density, cheap housing for TRANS AND INDIGENOUS people of color
FIFY, transphobe.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:48 am to djmed
In reality, it shouldn't be rebuilt. Malibu and parts of the Palisades face direct threat of fire, to the point of actually burning, once a decade. They deal with a big fire every single decade, dating back 100+ years. It is fire country, it will burn, it is over built, and the majority of homes are in the areas worst at risk of burning. Those homes are between rugged ridge lines that naturally funnel wind and fire through the valleys. You will never adequately control that landscape with prescribed fire because it is impossible to manage for normal firefighting efforts. Insurance will have to wash its hands of the area because insure>destroy>rebuild in a 10-15 year cycle isn't viable.
Whatever does get rebuilt is only getting set up to burn again.
Whatever does get rebuilt is only getting set up to burn again.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:50 am to djmed
That Carolla rant in the article is great.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:56 am to theliontamer
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So what is the goal exactly? Sell the land to rich people to build mansions? Build low income housing to support the great replacement?
Some good money on low income housing when a corporation buys it up on the cheap from the people who can't afford to build their home back the way they had it. These corporations get the Low Income Housing Tax Credits and consistent cash income from the government for decades. And can probably get much better treatment from the zoning and permit mafia in California.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:57 am to SlayTime
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And yes, it’s Reagan’s dumbass fault for opening the amnesty floodgates.
In the 80’s it was the churches that were the sanctuaries for illegals. This sanctuary stuff was started by Priests and Pastors. Reagan didn’t want the optics of raiding a church.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:40 am to LegendInMyMind
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Whatever does get rebuilt is only getting set up to burn again.
To expand a bit on my points in this post....
The Palisades (and Pasadena and Altadena, everyone forgets that fire......where the majority of deaths occured) is an area unique to itself when compared to anything else in fire country. The geography of the area coupled with the population density changes everything when it comes to wildfire. Particularly with the Palisades, it is all part of the Wilderness-Urban Interface (WUI). Defensible space is the key to slowing spread of wildfire when it gets into these built up areas. Living at the density they live it is incredibly difficult to maintain defensible space between homes and properties. Those houses, not unlike many neighborhoods we now see across the country, are built on top of each other. Lots are incredibly small, and the homes take up practically all of the lot. That makes for a space that is prone to rapid fire spread.
Being that it is the WUI, these neighborhoods directly abut wildlands. They're built in flat spots along ridges, in valleys, etc. The natural landscape of valleys and washes literally funnels fire to the areas that are built up. With Santa Anna wind events, and the wind shift that comes with them, that fire is driven to these areas with high population density, limited defensible space, and hard to manage wildland immediately adjacent to the properties. It is, in its very nature, perfect country for wildland-urban wildfires.
You aren't stopping the Nature part of that equation. Being physically able to burn enough via prescribed fire is a pipe dream. The rugged landscape, the thick density of people (throw tourism into the mix), and limited number of viable burn days per year means that you will never be able to get enough fire on the landscape to "manage brush". It just ain't happening.
That said, if they want to rebuild......it is going require monumental change to both the planning of neighborhoods and the way humans look at their homes and property. Population in many of these neighborhoods should be cut in half. The size of lots should be expanded, and right-of-ways should be re-drawn. This will provide actual defensible space for both the property owner and land management entities. A psychological shift will have to take place in that people come to the understanding that they cannot bring Nature into their neighborhoods as they once had. Landscaping as if fire isn't an inevitability is not an option. Direct and educated choices will have to be made in regards to how you landscape your property and how that landscaping will interact with that of your neighbors.
Finally, every new structure would have to be fire-hardened. That begins with building codes that dictate everything from open gutters and the type of soffit vents to roofing and fencing materials. We've spent 100+ years building the worst type homes in the worst fire environment in the country. That has to change.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:02 pm to PeleofAnalytics
Ok, that makes sense. Wouldn't be surprised if that was what's happening.
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