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re: Which, if any, liberal policies do you align with?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:58 pm to theliontamer
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:58 pm to theliontamer
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Which, if any, liberal policies do you align with?
The death penalty. Not because I have a problem with putting those guilty of a capital offense to death, but because I have zero trust in our government to know who needs to be executed and who shouldn't be. The government sucks at everything it does, and is untrustworthy in deciding life/death.
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:02 pm to theliontamer
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Which, if any, liberal policies do you align with?
I perfectly align with the 1990s Clinton Administration's border and immigration policies.
Ironically, that makes me literally a Nazi today.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:02 pm to theliontamer
Drug legalization, gay marriage, normalization of diplomatic relations with Cuba, campaign finance reform, reforming how we fund law enforcement, increasing the number of federal judges, qualified immunity reform, environmentalism that doesn’t involve garter snails or global warming, support for private sector unions, supporting urbanism and zoning reform, messaging on affordability issues, support for mass transit especially passenger rail, using anti-trust on ticketmaster, heck anti-trust in general, opposing overtly Christian indoctrination in public schools, the need for sex education in middle/high schools, teaching evolution in science classes…
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:05 pm to theliontamer
quote:Those that align with libertarian policies and away from autocracy and inefficient expense.
Which, if any, liberal policies do you align with?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:06 pm to Ricardo
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Serious answer. I'm kind of pro union. Yes, I know there's the potential for corruption within unions, but I've seen the good that can come from collective bargaining.
I am not a union expert, but at my company we had one non-union plant and those operators/maintenance workers at that plant were happier and did better work than the union workers at the other plants. And they were paid well also.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:09 pm to theliontamer
I used to think there’d be no way we’d be able to reduce the debt without significantly raising taxes. The huge amount of fraud, waste, and abuse that has been exposed over the past year has made me change my mind on that.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:12 pm to Mushroom1968
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I’m a bit of a tree hugger but that’s no longer a liberal ideal any longer.
Is it not?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:14 pm to theliontamer
Where does left and right stand on the publisher vs platform debate???
10 years ago that was a popular issue here on the Poliboard. Doesn’t really come up much anymore.
10 years ago that was a popular issue here on the Poliboard. Doesn’t really come up much anymore.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:29 pm to theliontamer
I actually agree with a couple things, but with a twist.
Prior to Trump, being anti-H1B was almost exclusively Bernie Sanders territory. The old GOP loved the H1B.
Healthcare (with major caveats) - A universal system that
- is not 100% free (need disincentive to avoid people going to the doctor willy nilly)
- premiums / deductibles are based on body fat percentage. Males with 15% or lower and females with 25% or lower pay the tiniest of premiums and deductibles.
Free university (again with major caveats)
- Free for those who score high enough on an IQ adjacent test. Something that cannot be gamed with tons of prep. All high school seniors take the test, you score high you are in for free. Score is low, take out loans or preferably find another path.
Prior to Trump, being anti-H1B was almost exclusively Bernie Sanders territory. The old GOP loved the H1B.
Healthcare (with major caveats) - A universal system that
- is not 100% free (need disincentive to avoid people going to the doctor willy nilly)
- premiums / deductibles are based on body fat percentage. Males with 15% or lower and females with 25% or lower pay the tiniest of premiums and deductibles.
Free university (again with major caveats)
- Free for those who score high enough on an IQ adjacent test. Something that cannot be gamed with tons of prep. All high school seniors take the test, you score high you are in for free. Score is low, take out loans or preferably find another path.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 1/28/26 at 3:57 pm to Smeg
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Look where the fricked up trans bullshite it got us.
Even the "normal" gays think the "trans bullshite" is bull shite, per my gay son and his "friend."
Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:04 pm to theliontamer
I am pro choice. Not for the same reasons they are, but I am nonetheless pro choice.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:08 pm to theliontamer
The only policy they seem to have is , Orange Man Bad.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:09 pm to theliontamer
I'm an atheist that supports:
Gay Marriage (not trannies or grooming kids)
Abortion
Drug Legalization
Removing Religion from Public Schools (ALL OF THEM)
Legalize Prostitution
Just to name a few.
Yet I had progressive acquaintances call me a nazi because I told them a man can't give birth.
Gay Marriage (not trannies or grooming kids)
Abortion
Drug Legalization
Removing Religion from Public Schools (ALL OF THEM)
Legalize Prostitution
Just to name a few.
Yet I had progressive acquaintances call me a nazi because I told them a man can't give birth.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:10 pm to Ingeniero
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I like parental leave for both parents after the birth of a child. My wife and I had it when our son was born and it was incredibly helpful
How did y’all decide which one would carry the baby
Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:22 pm to theliontamer
Healthcare: single payer though I am also ok with complete free market (insurance fricked it all up).
Public transportation. More please.
Making growing mj as legal as growing tomatoes. In all ways (meaning you can sell them how you wish) except only for 21 and up.
Be as gay as you like, get married, I really don't gaf about any of that. But if people don't like you, they don't have to include you.
Moderate on unions (50/50): you have a right to unionize but it's stupid to hurt the company to the point they have to go out of business.
That's pretty much it though.
In contrast I am 100% with Trump on immigration enforcement. About 80% on foreign policy. 50/50 on the tariffs thing like I am with unions: if it works, great, if it doesn't shitcan it.
Except for very specific things, I hate redistribution of wealth.
Public transportation. More please.
Making growing mj as legal as growing tomatoes. In all ways (meaning you can sell them how you wish) except only for 21 and up.
Be as gay as you like, get married, I really don't gaf about any of that. But if people don't like you, they don't have to include you.
Moderate on unions (50/50): you have a right to unionize but it's stupid to hurt the company to the point they have to go out of business.
That's pretty much it though.
In contrast I am 100% with Trump on immigration enforcement. About 80% on foreign policy. 50/50 on the tariffs thing like I am with unions: if it works, great, if it doesn't shitcan it.
Except for very specific things, I hate redistribution of wealth.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:28 pm to theliontamer
Tax on food.
I grew up in KY where groceries wasn't taxed. Came to AL and my 1st trip to the store I only had $20. I was poor. I had added up my food cost before getting to the register and to my surprise my total was more than what I had. I asked if she rang it up wrong and she told me AL charges tax. I had to put a couple cans of beans back. Its a bad feeling not having enough money to eat and pay food tax.
I grew up in KY where groceries wasn't taxed. Came to AL and my 1st trip to the store I only had $20. I was poor. I had added up my food cost before getting to the register and to my surprise my total was more than what I had. I asked if she rang it up wrong and she told me AL charges tax. I had to put a couple cans of beans back. Its a bad feeling not having enough money to eat and pay food tax.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:33 pm to theliontamer
Abortion...
Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:35 pm to theliontamer
The death penalty
Gay marriage
Gay marriage
Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:37 pm to SirWinston
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Thats not really "liberal" these days though
The frick it's not.
I know the whole country has been warped by populism, but a policy is not "liberal" or "conservative" because it's popular or unpopular.
You can use adjective like "far" or "moderate" to indicate where on the scale of popularity a policy sits as to whether it's the mainstream of a population or the fringe of the population that accepts the idea, or you could use them to describe whether the philosophical idea is taken to an extreme, but the underlying principles of the philosophies determine whether or not it is liberal or conservative.
A policy making it legal for women to choose to kill their offspring is based on one of two premises (or both).
1. The offspring is not an actual human being
2. The offspring may be a human being, but the will of the mother supersedes any rights the unborn human has
With what we know from embryology, we are 100% certain that the first premise is false. Either that or we are science deniers for convenience sake.
That leaves #2, and it only stands as a result of society having accepted the nonsense that is postmodernism and feminism. Which is liberal AF.
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I think abortion should be rare
And why is that, exactly?
Sounds like you're acknowledging that we're not dealing with a "clump of cells," otherwise, why should it be rare?
But if it's a human being and not a clump of cells, why should someone be able to decide to kill it?
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 1/28/26 at 4:40 pm to theballguy
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Healthcare: single payer though I am also ok with complete free market (insurance fricked it all up).
Sorry, but I'm going to continue to comment on this every time you post it because it betrays a complete lack of thought on the issue.
"I'm for freedom of speech. But I could also get behind abolishing the 1st Amendment altogether."
That's the equivalent statement you make every time you say that about health care. They are two diametrically opposed approaches. And probably the two worst possible alternative to what we have.
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