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re: Winning a Super Bowl in the state of California actually cost Sam Darnold 70k.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:21 pm to TigerAxeOK
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:21 pm to TigerAxeOK
duty days, so a team with its personel should just do 7 of the days in a no tax state and just fly in for the game
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:24 pm to The Pickwick
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People have no idea how the tax system works.
Like you?
The California jock tax is real.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:28 pm to TigerAxeOK
Lets do the math again.....
Sam Darnolds contract is 100.5 million over 3 years or 734K for 8 days
His bonus if he wins is 178K
The total compensation is 912K
Tax in california at the highest bracket is 12.3% a new "mental health" surcharge for those earning over 1 million is 1%
The total tax rate is 13.3%
His total tax is 121,296
They obviously added in his federal tax AND omitted his regular income.
He can deduct this taxable income from his home state tax since he paid in cali.
This little trick by cali is nothing new, other states do it and the EU. Its how footballers and musicians keep getting clipped when they dont even live in the country.
Sam Darnolds contract is 100.5 million over 3 years or 734K for 8 days
His bonus if he wins is 178K
The total compensation is 912K
Tax in california at the highest bracket is 12.3% a new "mental health" surcharge for those earning over 1 million is 1%
The total tax rate is 13.3%
His total tax is 121,296
They obviously added in his federal tax AND omitted his regular income.
He can deduct this taxable income from his home state tax since he paid in cali.
This little trick by cali is nothing new, other states do it and the EU. Its how footballers and musicians keep getting clipped when they dont even live in the country.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:31 pm to BoomerandSooner
How do you pay more that you make? Isn't a % of earning?
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:34 pm to dgnx6
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Like you
I’m smart enough to know he doesn’t pay more income tax than his actual income
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:36 pm to OchoDedos
My understanding is that athletes have to pay taxes in every state in which they play. But only for 1/20th of their annual salary for every game played in that state. In the end, they essentially pay on 1/2 of their annual salary to the state in which their team is located and 1/2 of their annual salary to the other states in which they play on the road for each game they play there.
So, if the Saints play one game in California, California only gets to tax 1/20th of a Saints' player's annual salary. if the Saints play two games in California, California gets the tax 1/10th (2/20th} of the player's annual salary.
I would guess that the analysis above showing that Darnell will lose money is incorrect.
I would guess that playoff money is taxed differently than a player's annual salary. Basically, I would think that California would essentially get to tax playoff winnings, but at a max of 13.3%. There's no way California is going to be allowed to tax more than Darnold even earns at the Super Bowl.
So, if the Saints play one game in California, California only gets to tax 1/20th of a Saints' player's annual salary. if the Saints play two games in California, California gets the tax 1/10th (2/20th} of the player's annual salary.
I would guess that the analysis above showing that Darnell will lose money is incorrect.
I would guess that playoff money is taxed differently than a player's annual salary. Basically, I would think that California would essentially get to tax playoff winnings, but at a max of 13.3%. There's no way California is going to be allowed to tax more than Darnold even earns at the Super Bowl.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:38 pm to TrueTiger
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Imagine getting drafted by a California or NY team.
When the Angels trade Josh Hamilton to Texas, is base salary went down because he was trade to a no state income tax state.
MLB has their formula down, Shohei Ohtani delaying his money to until he is out of California
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:45 pm to trinidadtiger
The amount of money that he earned from his contract in 2025 ($32M singing bonus and $6.4M base salary) would not be included in any calculation with his SB winnings, those funds were earned and paid in 2025.
The amount of money he earned from the SB was earned and paid in 2026.
The amount of money he earned from the SB was earned and paid in 2026.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:58 pm to TigerintheNO
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When the Angels trade Josh Hamilton to Texas, is base salary went down because he was trade to a no state income tax state.
MLB has their formula down, Shohei Ohtani delaying his money to until he is out of California
That's not true. Agents definitely take them into consideration when they are negotiating salaries. However, there’s no formula to reduce base hours when you get traded.
Regardless, baseball players (as well as all athletes) have to pay income tax and every statement which they pay. So someone playing in Texas or Florida or Washington (or any state with no income tax) will have at least half their salary, not being in taxed on a state level.
One thing I’ve been wondering about ever since the whole NIL regime was announced is whether the college athletes will also have to file state income tax returns in every state in which they play. I can’t think of a reason why they wouldn’t have to. There was a push in some southern states to exempt NIL payments from being taxed at the state level because non-income tax states would have an advantage in recruiting athletes. As a recall, some states did exempt NIL payments.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:58 pm to trinidadtiger
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Lets do the math again.....
Sam Darnolds contract is 100.5 million over 3 years or 734K for 8 days
His bonus if he wins is 178K
The total compensation is 912K
That is not how it works, your math is wrong.
What he owes will only based on what he makes in 2026 and how many days he works there. His base salary is only $12.3 million in 2026, his $35 million signing bonus was paid in 2025.
Since he will playing the Rams, 49ers, and Chargers (not sure if it home or away) it will be 10 or 11 days.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:01 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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The amount of money he earned from the SB was earned and paid in 2026.
Well, while that’s true, if [and that’s a big if) it is taxed way the OP suggested, it would just be added to his future 2026 salary and it would essentially give you the same results.
As I posted above, I don’t think the OP's analysis is correct. I think it’ll be taxed separately.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:03 pm to MMauler
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That's not true. Agents definitely take them into consideration when they are negotiating salaries. However, there’s no formula to reduce base hours when you get traded.
They put it in his contract, Josh Hamilton relinquished over $10 million in salary when he was traded. But was made whole in the difference between Cal and Texas tax rate.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:11 pm to how333
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Move
Let Calif. stew in its own juices.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:11 pm to BHTiger
“ How do you pay more that you make? Isn't a % of earning?”
He won’t. Although the so-called jock tax is real, the clip cited in the OP is a little misleading. Assuming the numbers are correct, My strong suspicion is that they are saying Darnold will pay more in TOTAL California state taxes than he made only Super Bowl bonus pay. Darnold makes about 30 MM as I recall, and he will have several days allocated to CA not just for the Super Bowl but for other games in CA—remember that the Rams and 49ers are in the same division—and much of the tax he will owe is based on his allocated salary. It doesn’t take much time in CA when make that kind of money.
He won’t. Although the so-called jock tax is real, the clip cited in the OP is a little misleading. Assuming the numbers are correct, My strong suspicion is that they are saying Darnold will pay more in TOTAL California state taxes than he made only Super Bowl bonus pay. Darnold makes about 30 MM as I recall, and he will have several days allocated to CA not just for the Super Bowl but for other games in CA—remember that the Rams and 49ers are in the same division—and much of the tax he will owe is based on his allocated salary. It doesn’t take much time in CA when make that kind of money.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:25 pm to baldona
Well, it is California, so does it really have to make sense?
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:33 pm to MMauler
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One thing I’ve been wondering about ever since the whole NIL regime was announced is whether the college athletes will also have to file state income tax returns in every state in which they play. I can’t think of a reason why they wouldn’t have to.
It not pay for play its NIL, which they would owe state tax to a state where you earn income from NIL activities.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:46 pm to BoomerandSooner
That is the biggest, I mean hugest, ripoff in the tax game I have ever heard of. Of course he can afford it which is how they are able to impose it.
He should sue California for his NIL money. People came to see him play and California benefitted hugely.
He should sue California for his NIL money. People came to see him play and California benefitted hugely.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:46 pm to TigerintheNO
Most states don’t require tax to be paid on NIL monies.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:47 pm to TigerintheNO
But you are not considering when he took the bonus, if he tax averaged over years, no idiot would claim it all in one year on taxes, or if he claimed his cat as a co dependent (dont laugh its cali).
Your calculation is probably as far off as mine.
My point is, no one knows his exact income claimed for 2026, but we do know the fallacy of paying more taxes than you earned in cali is just that a fallacy.
Your calculation is probably as far off as mine.
My point is, no one knows his exact income claimed for 2026, but we do know the fallacy of paying more taxes than you earned in cali is just that a fallacy.
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