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Letters Of Marque And Reprisal And How Could They Be Used To Weaken Drug Cartels
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:45 pm
Mike Lee
@BasedMikeLee
1/ What Are Letters Of Marque And Reprisal And How Could They Be Used To Weaken Drug Cartels
2/ Letters of marque and reprisal are government-issued commissions that authorize private citizens (privateers) to perform acts that would otherwise be considered piracy, like attacking enemy ships during wartime
Privateers are rewarded with a cut of the loot they “bring home”
3/ Legal Basis in the U.S.
The U.S. Constitution authorizes these commissions in Article I, Section 8, giving Congress the power to “grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal”
While Congress hasn’t issued one in over a century, the authority to do so still exists
4/ Modern Context: Mexican Drug Cartels
Using letters of marque could be a novel, but effective response to unique threats posed by drug cartels—especially in response to threats by the cartels to target U.S. planes returning illegal immigrants to their countries of origin
5/ How Could They Be Applied?
- Authorization: Congress could issue letters of marque and reprisal authorizing private security firms or specially trained civilians to intercept cartel operations, particularly those involving drug shipments or human trafficking across borders
- Targets: Focus on disrupting supply lines, capturing high-value targets, or seizing assets like boats, vehicles, cash, gold, or equipment used in criminal activities
6/ Advantages
- Flexibility: Private entities operate with more agility than the government, adapting quickly with the tactics of cartels
- Cost: Would reduce the financial burden on taxpayers, as privateers receive only a cut of what they recover & return to the U.S.
7/ Criticism
The use of letters of marque and reprisal would undoubtedly draw criticism, especially from those inclined to elevate abstract, often-inchoate principles of what they deem “international law” above the sovereign interests of the United States
8/ Dismissing the possible use of letters of marque to combat Mexican drug cartels—either on the basis of “international law” or otherwise—overlooks the clear and present threat posed by those cartels to the U.S.
This could prove to be an effective alternative to war
9/ We have no desire to go to war with our southern neighbor
But we also can’t ignore the fact that drug cartels are now threatening to target U.S. planes deporting illegal aliens
That sounds like a great reason to consider issuing letters of marque and reprisal
10/ Letters of marque and reprisal have worked well for the U.S.—and countless other countries—in the past
We’d be wrong not to consider using them against the cartels
11/ Please share if you like this idea—and follow if you’d like to see more posts about letters of marque and reprisal & other amazing, little-known features of the U.S. Constitution
@BasedMikeLee
1/ What Are Letters Of Marque And Reprisal And How Could They Be Used To Weaken Drug Cartels
2/ Letters of marque and reprisal are government-issued commissions that authorize private citizens (privateers) to perform acts that would otherwise be considered piracy, like attacking enemy ships during wartime
Privateers are rewarded with a cut of the loot they “bring home”
3/ Legal Basis in the U.S.
The U.S. Constitution authorizes these commissions in Article I, Section 8, giving Congress the power to “grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal”
While Congress hasn’t issued one in over a century, the authority to do so still exists
4/ Modern Context: Mexican Drug Cartels
Using letters of marque could be a novel, but effective response to unique threats posed by drug cartels—especially in response to threats by the cartels to target U.S. planes returning illegal immigrants to their countries of origin
5/ How Could They Be Applied?
- Authorization: Congress could issue letters of marque and reprisal authorizing private security firms or specially trained civilians to intercept cartel operations, particularly those involving drug shipments or human trafficking across borders
- Targets: Focus on disrupting supply lines, capturing high-value targets, or seizing assets like boats, vehicles, cash, gold, or equipment used in criminal activities
6/ Advantages
- Flexibility: Private entities operate with more agility than the government, adapting quickly with the tactics of cartels
- Cost: Would reduce the financial burden on taxpayers, as privateers receive only a cut of what they recover & return to the U.S.
7/ Criticism
The use of letters of marque and reprisal would undoubtedly draw criticism, especially from those inclined to elevate abstract, often-inchoate principles of what they deem “international law” above the sovereign interests of the United States
8/ Dismissing the possible use of letters of marque to combat Mexican drug cartels—either on the basis of “international law” or otherwise—overlooks the clear and present threat posed by those cartels to the U.S.
This could prove to be an effective alternative to war
9/ We have no desire to go to war with our southern neighbor
But we also can’t ignore the fact that drug cartels are now threatening to target U.S. planes deporting illegal aliens
That sounds like a great reason to consider issuing letters of marque and reprisal
10/ Letters of marque and reprisal have worked well for the U.S.—and countless other countries—in the past
We’d be wrong not to consider using them against the cartels
11/ Please share if you like this idea—and follow if you’d like to see more posts about letters of marque and reprisal & other amazing, little-known features of the U.S. Constitution
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:47 pm to OU Guy
So like Blackwater and other PMCs?
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:47 pm to OU Guy
I've said this before many times right here.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:48 pm to OU Guy
I'm fixing to check gunbroker for cannons and parrots.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:55 pm to OU Guy
Well we do have a lot of veterans with experience and cartels have a lot of cash.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:57 pm to OU Guy
Sorry man I kinda like my head attached to my neck and my neck attached to my shoulders. I ain’t getting wrapped up in that shite.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:10 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
So like Blackwater and other PMCs?
No. Not unless we're arming them. Cartels have Javelins now.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:11 pm to OU Guy
How about we allow US citizens to use deadly force at the borders like they do in Poland.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:11 pm to OU Guy
End up with a lot vigilantes robbing your basic Honduran roofer thinking he has carte blanche to do so
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:11 am to OU Guy
On a side note.....
In this day and age when people will pay a ransom for some pop stars drawers, or some athlete's dirty sneakers.
I saw a few years back where Letter of Marque for Thomas Jefferson and James Madison sold at auction for 10 grand and 5 grand.
What a bargain for something I would think would be so cool to have on your wall. Your president authorizing you to be a pirate.
In this day and age when people will pay a ransom for some pop stars drawers, or some athlete's dirty sneakers.
I saw a few years back where Letter of Marque for Thomas Jefferson and James Madison sold at auction for 10 grand and 5 grand.
What a bargain for something I would think would be so cool to have on your wall. Your president authorizing you to be a pirate.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:13 am to UptownJoeBrown
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cartels have a lot of cash.
i want the full-auto M4A1 they're carrying.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:19 am to finchmeister08
Great idea in theory. An alternative is to help Mexico develop their economy to the point these cartel members are able to choose a white collar life as a programer, systems analyst, business development guy, finance bro etc instead of a cartel member.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:19 am to OU Guy
Remember, the biggest benefactor of the open border is Carlos Slim.
The wealthiest Mexican, and one of the richest in the world. Know how the NYT hates Trump, its largest shareholder was Slim.
Need to call home, he owns TexMex and most of the central american phone companies as well as one in the US for latinos. Need to launder money, he owns bank of Mexico. He also owns 100s of companies that do business with the US.
You do not do business in Mexico without giving Carlos 10%.
When Trump got in office first time, the first person he met from Mexico was not the president.....but Carlos Slim.
You fck with his businesses and you hear the mexican President squeal as he slaps her around.
The wealthiest Mexican, and one of the richest in the world. Know how the NYT hates Trump, its largest shareholder was Slim.
Need to call home, he owns TexMex and most of the central american phone companies as well as one in the US for latinos. Need to launder money, he owns bank of Mexico. He also owns 100s of companies that do business with the US.
You do not do business in Mexico without giving Carlos 10%.
When Trump got in office first time, the first person he met from Mexico was not the president.....but Carlos Slim.
You fck with his businesses and you hear the mexican President squeal as he slaps her around.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:21 am to Gee Grenouille
In teach myself how to fly drones, get one of these and then wreck shop
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:25 am to OU Guy
Hugh Hewitt discussed this. Imagine former seal team 6 guys going after cartel members with the expectation of billion dollar bonuses from loot
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:31 am to OU Guy
Comical.
Plus pirates can be bought off....become partners. The cartels fully endorse this idea.
Ex: CJNG has a beef with the Gulf Cartel. They find the" pirates" at a bar. Tell them that they can keep half the money from the Gulf guys if they help to eliminate them. Plus CJNG will help them with logistics. CJNG pays better than the Feds so the "pirates" throw in with them....mostly. so then you have the US Navy and USCG looking for cartel smuggling and piracy on the high seas.
Good job Mike. You just suggested the Cartel Recruitment Act. SDV is lacking his chops
Plus pirates can be bought off....become partners. The cartels fully endorse this idea.
Ex: CJNG has a beef with the Gulf Cartel. They find the" pirates" at a bar. Tell them that they can keep half the money from the Gulf guys if they help to eliminate them. Plus CJNG will help them with logistics. CJNG pays better than the Feds so the "pirates" throw in with them....mostly. so then you have the US Navy and USCG looking for cartel smuggling and piracy on the high seas.
Good job Mike. You just suggested the Cartel Recruitment Act. SDV is lacking his chops
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:38 am to Man4others
On top of the bonus that the competing cartel pays them for services rendered....in cash
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:14 am to lsuoilengr
quote:
Great idea in theory. An alternative is to help Mexico develop their economy to the point these cartel members are able to choose a white collar life as a programer, systems analyst, business development guy, finance bro etc instead of a cartel member
Lol.... Talk about a great idea in theory!!
I doubt the majority of cartel members would choose to be white collar guys. Most are probably cartel members/soldiers because they grew up poor and had little opportunity.
More realistic would be programs that provide a blue collar working skill; mechanic, plumber, welder, carpenter, truck driver, etc.
Also, similiar to degraded areas here in the US there is a cultural aspect to be considered.
The same as young poor kids see gang members selling dope, wearing flashy clothes, driving nice cars, respect/fear from the community, this is appealing to the young folks and would need to be overcome.
Seems like the cartels are thriving in the rural areas as well as in the Mexico cities.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:22 am to UptownJoeBrown
quote:
Well we do have a lot of veterans with experience and cartels have a lot of cash.
I've always wondered why we don't see more vets getting together and knocking over crack houses. Dangerous but big rewards.
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